Doug Wilson’s CNN interview exposes the left’s religious illiteracy ... again
For the leftists who lie awake at night worrying about Christian nationalism taking over the country, Pastor Doug Wilson has clarified that it’s much worse than they think. Christians aren’t planning to stop at the country — they plan to Christianize the world! That is the stuff of nightmares for left-wing atheist CNN journalists and humanities professors.
CNN’s interview last week with Doug Wilson went just as you’d expect: a reporter acting as if she were hearing about the Great Commission for the first time and Wilson fielding “gotcha” questions about whether he really supports a pro-slavery theocracy.
It’s not a question of whether we live in a ‘theocracy,’ but of which God we serve.
But the real story isn’t Wilson — it’s the reporter and the ideology she represents. Has she never been to Sunday school? Had she already been thoroughly “decolonized” from the Bible by the time she took a literature class? Does she truly not know that Christians founded the United States on Christian ideas — or that prominent Americans, multiple presidents, and the Supreme Court have called ours a Christian nation? Does she even care?
The Great Commission means ‘conversion’
Wilson responded to the interviewer with his usual flair. He pointed out that if she visited Saudi Arabia, she would recognize it as an Islamic nation and not be surprised. But he also made it clear that he plans to convert Saudi Arabia into a Christian nation.
And that’s the key word: convert.
Christianity is not a tribal religion. It seeks to fill the earth by preaching the gospel and converting sinners to Christ. This is the source of the belief that all humans are equal.
That’s precisely why Christianity is such an offense to the non-Christian. The sinner doesn’t mind being told, “I don’t agree with you.” But preaching Christ crucified is foolishness to the worldly-wise because it confronts them with a painful truth: They have sinned not only against their neighbor, but against God — and the only means of reconciliation is the cross of Christ.
They must humble their pride, but the modern leftist worships pride.
Every culture but ‘Christian’
“Culture” is another reason why Christian culture is so repugnant to the left. Leftists are fine recognizing that Islam gives rise to Islamic culture and Islamic countries. In fact, what do female reporters do when they work in Saudi Arabia? They voluntarily wear head coverings and act respectful of Islamic authorities. The same goes for Buddhism or Hinduism.
But if you point out that Christianity also produces a distinctive culture, one that gave us the United States and the values that have allowed it to continue, they panic. Suddenly, they’re asking questions about slavery and the role of women.
The CNN report spent considerable time — given its length — on how Wilson and other conservative Christians view women. The reporter was quick to mention her favorite dystopian fantasy, “The Handmaid’s Tale.” Why? Because the idea that a woman might actually enjoy having and raising her own children to know and love God simply doesn’t compute.
Such a woman, in the reporter’s view, must be under the severe oppression of men to harbor such ideas. The reporter shared that she has three children, but also emphasized that she is a successful journalist, which consumes most of her time.
Wilson’s answer humanized mothers more than anything CNN likely has ever aired. What could be more important than caring for the immortal souls of your own children? Why hand that off to someone who hates God and pushes LGBTQ+ ideology in kindergarten classrooms? Christianity teaches the dignity of women and mothers in a way that the hollow, secularized values of the left never can.
We all serve somebody
And yet the supposed worry about Christian nationalism is that once you let one religion into the halls of power, you’ll have to let others in too. If Christians have the ascendancy today, are they really ready for some other religion to gain power if the next election goes the other way?
This kind of argument has been used to keep Christians under control for decades. Wilson’s reply cuts to the heart of the matter: it’s not a question of whether we live in a theocracy, but which God we serve. Everyone serves some god. Christians know this.
The left, on the other hand, has tried to hold on to American principles after ripping them from their theological roots. But those principles only ever made sense in a Christian context — historically and logically. The result? The left now serves the god of pleasure and holds parades in honor of Aphrodite.
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Whatever one thinks about Wilson, what he said in this interview isn’t controversial. Or it shouldn't be. Christ gave Christians the Great Commission. The New Testament shows Christians living it out, and they eventually Christianized the Roman Empire. Old Testament prophecy assures us that the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord. Both Christians and non-Christians know what’s at stake.
And just as everyone serves some god, everyone also seeks to convert others. The left wants to teach other people’s children (since leftists rarely have their own) that they are merely animals and should worship Eros in all its forms. Christians teach that humans are made in the image of God, and they want to convert people to faith in Christ. The lines are clearly drawn.
The next Christian revolution won’t be livestreamed on TikTok
Ronald Reagan famously cited the Roman maxim, “If it was not for the elders correcting the mistakes of the young, there would be no state.” That wisdom rings hollow when you’re on the mistake-making side.
Generation Z hasn’t exactly earned a reputation for excellence. As we wrote this, professional activist Greta Thunberg was in Paris, pausing her carbon-shaming campaign to weigh in on the war against Hamas. Here at home, Gen Z Democratic influencer Olivia Julianna is trying to rebrand her party’s image among young men by championing abortion access and highlighting its supposedly deep, hidden love for groups like Black Lives Matter.
Being ‘Christian first, conservative second’ isn’t political surrender. It’s the basis for cultural authority.
That barely scratches the surface.
A quick scroll through X reveals countless under-30 users with enormous followings and the “influencer” label — despite having little real influence. Their mistakes aren’t just frequent. They’re embarrassing.
So what’s a Christian Zoomer supposed to do?
The extreme of ‘influencerdom’
At a high level, the answer is simple: Build systems that reflect Christian values, and challenge the ones that don’t. But real influence won’t come by copying the warped incentives pushed by our generation’s loudest voices.
The skills needed to go viral online rarely match the skills needed to drive real-world change. In fact, they often clash. Posting about the dangers of corporate diversity, equity, and inclusion is one thing; using influence to force lasting change in corporate policy is something else entirely. Both matter — but they aren’t the same.
The other extreme: Apathy
But political “influencerdom” isn’t the only problem. Gen Z also suffers from a serious apathy problem. Between the aftershocks of the COVID economy and apocalyptic climate narratives — why bother thinking seriously about policy if the sun’s going to explode in 10 years? — Zoomers have earned a reputation as, in the Wall Street Journal’s words, “America’s Most Disillusioned Voters.”
We’ll show up to vote — maybe. But posting on Instagram takes less effort, so we’ll do that instead. One analysis summarized the challenge this way: “Campaigns must focus on converting robust online advocacy into real-world voter turnout.” That’s the kind of strategy you get when no one really cares.
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A Christian Zoomer response
As Christians, our duty is the opposite of apathy. We’re called to care. Rejecting our generation’s default indifference is just the beginning. “Christ is King” isn’t a license to coast — it’s the foundation for action.
Here are some practical ways Christian Zoomers can avoid the traps of both performative activism and total disengagement.
Seek wisdom from the right sources. Don’t look to influencers for answers. The people most worth learning from probably don’t have a million followers on X. Avoid the echo chamber of “onlineness.” Instead, find expertise from unglamorous sources: people with “lived experience,” technical know-how, and hard-earned wisdom.
Join a local church. Every Christian needs the weekly rhythm of worship, sound teaching, and community. But for young believers navigating a secular world, the church is especially vital. Find a congregation that preaches the gospel clearly and offers intergenerational support. This isn’t about socializing — it’s about growing in conviction and courage through regular contact with people who live by “Christ first, culture second.”
Vote locally. You don’t have to be a political junkie, but you should know what’s happening in your county. Local and state policies affect your daily life far more than most federal debates. National politics is often a circus; local politics is where things actually get done. Caring about what happens five miles from home is a Christian habit worth cultivating.
Think before you post. Virtue-signaling comes in all forms — left, right, and “based.” Whether it’s a black square or the latest meme, pause before jumping in. Ask: “Am I actually doing something about this issue in my community?” If the answer is yes, then post away. If not, maybe start with action before broadcasting your opinion.
Keep a few friends who disagree with you. Yes, surround yourself with faithful Christians — but don’t retreat into an ideological bunker. Having friends with different views helps you resist tribalism. You may not see eye to eye on politics, but they probably aren’t your enemies. Humanizing your opponents is a discipline, one that fights against the hyperfixation and outrage that dominate our age.
Serve somewhere. Whether you care about the unborn, the incarcerated, or victims of trafficking, find a local organization doing the work — and show up. It’s easy to have strong opinions about cultural decay. It’s much harder to give your time. But service grounds us. It reminds us of God’s blessings and our call to be His hands and feet.
Our generation veers between two extremes: obsessive political engagement and total apathy. Both reflect a flawed attempt to wring meaning from a system designed only to support human flourishing — not define it. And both fail.
The politically apathetic pride themselves on floating above the fray, looking down on those who care enough to engage. The hyper-engaged believe their passion sets them apart — morally superior to the so-called “normies” who sleepwalk through civic life.
Both attitudes are wrong.
If we, the rising generation of Christians, want to engage the culture meaningfully, we must refuse to measure our success — or define our mission — by worldly standards.
Being “Christian first, conservative second” isn’t political surrender. It’s the basis for cultural authority. It doesn’t excuse disengagement. It demands engagement.
We act because we believe every person bears the image of God. That truth drives our pursuit of justice, mercy, and truth. Our theology shapes our politics, not the other way around.
And if pagan, anti-Christian values fall in the process? So much the better!
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