JD Vance reveals opinion on Epstein files, explains 'demon' alien theory, slams 'full of s**t' Gavin Newsom with Joe Rogan



United States Vice President JD Vance sat down for a wide-ranging interview with podcaster Joe Rogan. The eyebrow-raising interview included skewering Democratic California Gov. Gavin Newsom, discussing the Epstein files, and explaining aliens possibly being demons.

In the nearly three-hour podcast interview released Wednesday, Vance said many Republicans are "skeptical" because many Democrats want it to be illegal for voters to show identification when voting in elections.

'I admire the f**king sheer tenacity that he has in being full of s**t.'

Vance asked, "Why not just have voter ID?"

Rogan said opposition to voter identification requirements makes it seem "like you want people to cheat."

Vance declared, "If you don't want to cheat in the election, then just make everybody actually show an ID."

When Rogan asked about the United States' military action against Iran, Vance said he would support President Donald Trump's overseas intervention as long as the decisions are "legal and ethical."

Vance stated, “The goal is certainly good, which is to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.”

The prolific podcaster asked about the release of the files related to the investigation into convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

The vice president conceded that the administration had “mishandled” the Epstein files.

"If people want to say we mishandled the Epstein release, guilty. We did mishandle it — especially the communications of it," Vance said.

"We absolutely screwed up the comms of the Epstein files. We just did," Vance admitted.

However, Vance stressed there was no truth to theories that the White House was attempting to hide anything about the Epstein files.

Vance declared himself to be one of the original "Epstein conspiracy theorists" and said that he has "probably gone down every single rabbit hole we could go down."

Vance added, "But do I think the reason we screwed up the comms is because we were trying to hide something? No."

Vance said former Attorney General Pam Bondi's claim about having binders of documents on her desk made "people mistrust the entire effort" and "overstated what we had and what we didn't have."

Vance said that he does "like" Bondi and that the binder incident was likely her "trying to respond to the political moment."

Vance noted, "We did release all these files. Did it take longer than it should have taken? Yes."

Vance said the Epstein files should have been "dropped at the very beginning" once all the reviews and redactions had been done.

"We should have just done it as quickly as possible," Vance stated.

Vance said he believes that Epstein "clearly" had connections to the highest level of American and Israeli intelligence.

"Yeah, Mossad or CIA or some other deep state, whether in America or Israel or another country — or both," Vance said. "Look, he clearly had connections to the highest levels of American intelligence. He clearly had connections to the highest levels of Israeli intelligence."

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Rogan — who showed support for Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), a democratic socialist, in 2020 — said that he is "really concerned" about Americans rallying around socialism.

"I'm really concerned that people think that's a good idea and that they think that socialism just hasn't been done correctly," Rogan told Vance. "That drives me nuts."

Rogan said socialism "always leads to one thing: It leads to a very powerful military government that controls the population — period, end of discussion."

Vance agreed with Rogan's assessment.

"The whole argument of communism is that you seize the means of production," Vance said. "But because the most powerful means of production is the human mind, you ultimately have to get into totalitarianism."

Vance expressed concern that artificial intelligence could unintentionally usher in communism.

"The fundamental challenge of AI is, it's going to unleash a lot of wealth creation, but if that wealth creation all goes to some segment of people, you're going to have communism," Vance warned.

"But if you don't ensure that there's some broader prosperity from that wealth creation, we have run this experiment before, and it leads to communism," he added.

Vance and Rogan both agreed that California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) is "full of s**t." The pair rehashed the time when Newsom told a group that he "cannot read a speech."

As Blaze News reported in February, Newsom apparently attempted to appeal to a reportedly majority-black audience at a book tour stop in Atlanta.

"I'm not trying to impress you," Newsom told the group. "I'm just trying to impress upon you, I'm like you. I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a 960 SAT guy. I'm not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to act all there if you got a 940."

"You never see me read a speech because I cannot read a speech," Newsom added.

Vance said of Newsom, "He's full of s**t."

Rogan replied, "He's so full of s**t. Admirably full of s**t. I admire the f**king sheer tenacity that he has in being full of s**t."

Rogan asked Vance about remarks he made earlier this year, where he revealed that he believes aliens could be demons.

"I'm not one of these people who's, like, a hyper-rationalist," Vance responded. "I think that there are things happening in the world that we're not always seeing. I believe in God."

"If you look historically at things that are similar to the alien phenomenon, where some strange being, it kind of looks like a human being, but ... that's not human, and it shows a particular interest in human beings, and then it takes the human beings and does weird experiments on them."

Vance said either it is "bulls**t," you're "talking to a crazy person," or aliens could be demons.

"Just because I believe in the supernatural doesn't mean I believe in everything supernatural,” Vance continued. “But if we're talking about an extraterrestrial being that is human-like but not human that contains effectively infinite powers and is torturing human beings, you can call it an alien if you want, but I think there's a lot of historical precedent to call that a demon.”

Rogan described an alleged alien encounter where the extraterrestrial healed a man. Vance replied, “Extra-powerful beings, in this case communicating telepathically, helping people, sounds like an angel."

The entire "Joe Rogan Experience" interview with JD Vance can be seen here.

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‘The phenomen​on is real’: Anna Paulina Luna teases major disclosure on ‘Glenn Beck Program’



The American people have not been getting the full story on alien disclosure, and while Florida Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R) isn’t yet allowed to tell it, she isn’t shying away from teasing it.

“Under the last administration, we were being obstructed, and really, until President Trump gave the green light for them to start releasing stuff,” Luna tells Blaze Media co-founder Glenn Beck, “we would not have been able to talk about or share some of the investigations that have been conducted by the federal government. We wouldn’t have been able to talk about some of the footage that you’re now seeing.”

“Do you know something that has not been released?” Glenn asks. “Do you know things that you feel the American people should know?”

“There will be an announcement soon on one other kind of factor to all this, but ... I think it’ll just kind of give the assurance that people will understand that the phenomenon is real,” Luna responds.


“What I will say is, without a doubt the phenomenon is real,” she adds.

“Are you leaning one way or another? Foreign or not earthly?” Glenn asks.

“I think when you talk about these things, I don’t want to say not earthly because we don’t know ... but what I would say is that energy is real, and a lot of these — you can see in some of them orbs — they can’t explain it,” Luna responds.

“And so I think that gets into a deeper discussion," she adds.

Glenn wants to dig deeper, asking, “Is this a defense, or is this a spiritual question? Which is the bigger question — defense or philosophical/spiritual?”

“I think that it will really kind of make people ask the fundamental question of, ‘Do you believe?’” Luna explains.

“Do you believe in God or not, and then do you believe that we’re the only creation, not speculating on nefarious or bad,” she adds.

“I don’t understand how people are saying that this is going to make everybody question their faith,” Glenn answers. “If I find out that there are other beings, why would I question my faith?”

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