MSNBC host is confronted with reality check after defending Joe Biden's history of lying to slam George Santos



MSNBC host Chris Hayes received a prompt reality check on Tuesday after downplaying Democrats who embellished their past to slam Republican Rep.-elect George Santos.

Santos, a Republican from Long Island, admitted this week to lying about his personal background, education, and employment history.

What did Hayes say?

On Tuesday, writer Jonah Goldberg critiized Democrats for conveniently forgetting how often their leaders have been caught embellishing their biographies.

"I think Santos is a total embarrassment and has no place in public life," Goldberg tweeted. "But a lot of folks on this site dinging him seem to have forgotten how much both the current president and his predecessor 'embellished' about their accomplishments."

In response, Hayes drew a distinction between Santos and President Joe Biden, ultimately minimizing Goldberg's point.

"I think there's a line between 'normal' politican [sic] bs-ing and conman serial lying, and he's got infractions on either side of that line," Hayes responded. "I mean it would have been a pretty big deal if it turned out Joe Biden didn't actually have a law degree!"

\u201c@JonahDispatch I think there's a line between "normal" politican bs-ing and conman serial lying, and he's got infractions on either side of that line. I mean it would have been a pretty big deal if it turned out Joe Biden didn't actually have a law degree!\u201d
— Jonah Goldberg (@Jonah Goldberg) 1672156606

What was the response?

Hayes' attempt to dismiss Goldberg's point was confronted with Biden's history of serial lying.

  • "Sure, Biden lied about being the first in his family to go to college, lied about his scholarship, lied about finishing in the top half of his class, lied about having 3 undergrad degrees, and lied about being a professor.but, by God, the law degree is real!" journalist T. Becket Adams explained.
  • "The thing is, Biden was busted for plagiarizing 5 entire pages in law school -- he probably shouldn't have a law degree," writer Mark Hemingway noted.
  • "What if it turned out he cheated his way to a law degree by plagiarizing five full pages from a published law review?How could anyone pretend a person could accidentally type five full pages verbatim from a published law review?" commentator Phil Kerpen pointed out.
  • "Biden lies about the most important moments in his life all the time. From the tragic death of his daughter and first wife to the number of grandchildren he has. He lies incessantly about his education. Find something biographical he doesn’t lie about. Hell, he’s not even Irish," another person said.
  • "Conman serial lying is literally who Joe Biden is. He says he played football in college, was in the military, his son died in Iraq, he got arrested meeting Nelson Mandela, got arrested for supporting desegregation (he actually argued *FOR* segregation) & says he beat up cornpop," one person explained.
  • "What @chrislhayes means to say is that there is a difference between a serial-lying conman on my political team and a serial-lying conman on the other political team," one person responded.
  • "And for you that line is party affiliation," another person said, referring to Hayes' "line" of distinction.
  • "So you’re ok with Biden lying, plagiarizing, and just flat out making things up for decades? Why did he have to drop outta the 1988 Prez race again?" one person asked.

Indeed, Biden's more notorious lies include his claim that he was arrested while trying to visit Nelson Mandela, claims about the tragic car accident that killed his wife and son in 1972, claims about his academic history and credentials. You can see more via PolitiFact here.

Most famously, Biden's falsehoods about his academic record forced him to end his 1988 presidential campaign.

MSNBC's Chris Hayes tells Republicans that Trump is to blame for midterm failures: 'He screwed you today!'



MSNBC host Chris Hayes addressed Republicans on the progressive cable news channel's coverage of election night, during which a "red wave" of Republican victories apparently failed to materialize.

Hayes was on MSNBC's election night panel when he commented on the lack of expected victories by Republicans and pinned the blame partly on failed endorsements by former President Donald Trump.

"I think part of the fretting is the 2016 PTSD, like, really, that was a seismic event in the history of American politics, in the history of the world, in the history of American democracy, right?" Hayes said.

He went on to recall how he told Democratic strategist James Carville in 2016 during a break that he didn't think Hillary Clinton was going to win the election.

"I think that goes both ways. Democrats have this sort of insecurity, right, I think Republicans still ascribe to that man this totemic power that he does not have. He doesn't have some magic power, I'm telling you Republicans," he continued.

"What camera am I looking at? He doesn't have a magic power, he is unpopular," Hayes said while peering directly at the camera.

"He is unpopular. He screwed you today. He screwed you!" he said emphatically.

"It's not the full story, I totally agree," Hayes concluded, "but it is part of the story and the sooner you dump him, the better it is for the Republican party and for American democracy, full stop!"

Trump's endorsements failed in some elections in Colorado, where Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert appeared to lose to Democrat Adam Frisch, and in Pennsylvania where Dr. Mehmet Oz appeared to lose the U.S. Senate election to John Fetterman. On the other hand, Trump-endorsed candidate J.D. Vance won the U.S. Senate seat for Ohio, and Ted Budd also won a Senate seat for North Carolina.

The MSNBC panel was disappointed by the massive victories in Florida, where both Republicans Gov. Ron DeSantis and Sen. Marco Rubio were able to win their reelection campaigns by large margins.

Here's the video of Hayes' comments:

\u201c"I think Republicans still ascribe to that man this totemic power that he does not have. He doesn't have some magic power," says @chrislhayes on Donald Trump. \n\n"Republicans: He is unpopular. He screwed you today. He screwed you."\u201d
— All In with Chris Hayes (@All In with Chris Hayes) 1667971411

Fauci and Walensky suggest new CDC rules aren't based solely on science — but on what 'people would be able to tolerate'



The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is under fire from health experts and employee groups that say the new COVID-19 isolation and quarantine guidance doesn't follow the science. The critics are saying the government is changing the rules for practical reasons — to keep the economy from shutting down — and comments from CDC Director Rochelle Walensky and White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci indicate the critics have a point.

On Monday, the CDC rolled out new guidance shortening the time people who test positive for COVID-19 are recommended to isolate before interacting with other people. Previously, a person who tested positive for the virus was supposed to quarantine for 10 days. Now, the CDC says people who test positive are asked to isolate for five days and then, if they have no symptoms, they may leave quarantine as long as they wear a mask around others. The new guidance applies to everyone, regardless of vaccination status.

But here's what's causing controversy: The new guidelines do not require a person in quarantine to test negative for the virus before leaving isolation after five days. They are also silent on the type of mask a person leaving quarantine should wear, even though the weight of scientific evidence suggests that cloth masks, which are highly popular, are not that effective at stopping transmission of the Delta or Omicron coronavirus variants.

Fauci and Walensky insist the change is based on science demonstrating that most COVID-19 transmission happens 1-2 days prior to the onset of symptoms and 2-3 days afterward.

Health experts commenting on social media criticized the lack of a testing recommendation, with one epidemiologist going so far as to call the guidance "reckless."

CDC\u2019s new guidance to drop isolation of positives to 5 days without a negative test is reckless\n\nSome ppl stay infectious 3 days,Some 12\n\nI absolutely don\u2019t want to sit next to someone who turned Pos 5 days ago and hasnt tested Neg\n\nTest Neg to leave isolation early is just smart
— Michael Mina (@Michael Mina) 1640645077

On Tuesday night, Fauci went on MSNBC with host Chris Hayes to defend the new guidance. Hayes was clearly skeptical of the new rules, asking if there was actual science behind the change or if the CDC made a "policy judgement" based on certain "trade-offs" — like making sure that America's infrastructure doesn't shut down because essential workers are forced to quarantine for 10 days if they test positive for COVID.

.@chrislhayes pressed Fauci tonight on new CDC guidance.\n\nHAYES: Is there any science backing up the idea that after 5 days\u2026 you\u2019re not still shedding virus?\n\nFAUCI: This is one of those situations\u2026 that we often say, you don't want the perfect to be the enemy of the good.pic.twitter.com/NVSqfZ8yUk
— Dan Diamond (@Dan Diamond) 1640752693

"Nothing is going to be 100%," Fauci answered, calling the CDC's decision a "difficult situation."

"You don't want the perfect to be the enemy of the good," Fauci said, arguing that after five days, mask-wearing should provide enough protection against virus transmission for asymptomatic, COVID-positive people to leave quarantine.

Walensky echoed Fauci's comments in an interview on Wednesday morning, but was even more forthright about how the CDC considered people's resistance to coronavirus restrictions before coming to its decision.

CNN's @kaitlancollins: "It sounds like this decision had just as much to do with business as it did the science."\n\n@CDCDirector Dr. Rochelle Walensky: "It really had a lot to do with what we thought people would be able to tolerate."pic.twitter.com/Ek3X3S7Q9S
— The Recount (@The Recount) 1640784051

"It really had a lot to do with what we thought people would be able to tolerate," Walensky admitted.

Both Fauci and Walensky have also vigorously denied that the lack of a testing requirement is due to limited supply of virus tests in the U.S., contradicting multiple news reports on the CDC's decision-making.

CNN reported Tuesday that a shortage of tests factored into the administration's decision, quoting a senior administration official.

"If we require a test, people are going to say, 'What if we can't get a test?'" the official told CNN. "Rather than letting the perfect be the enemy of the good," the official said, the CDC went with looser restrictions, although the official noted that "best practice would also include a test for SARS-CoV-2 at day 5 after exposure.”

The New York Times corroborated that report: "A scientist who has discussed isolation policy with the C.D.C. in recent months said that officials said the agency could not recommend rapid tests while supplies were so scarce. The scientist spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe confidential discussions."

But Fauci has outright denied that claim. "The reason the CDC gives is not because there is a shortage of tests," he told CNN on Tuesday. Walensky said the same thing Wednesday morning.

"This really had nothing to do with supply. It had everything to do with knowing what we would do with the information when we got it," she told CBS.

So Fauci and Walensky have admitted the policy change was not based solely on scientific evidence, but other considerations as well. And they appear to be lying about, or at least obfuscating, the factors that went into the CDC's decision.

As for their claims about COVID infections not being contagious after five days, some health experts who spoke to the New York Times disagreed. Yonatan Grad, an associate professor of immunology and infectious diseases at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, said the CDC's policy "feels honestly more about economics than about the science."

“I suspect what it will do is result in at least some people emerging from isolation more quickly, and so there’ll be more opportunities for transmission and that of course will accelerate the spread of Covid-19,” he told the Times, adding that people are unlikely to strictly follow the CDC's masking guidelines after returning from quarantine.

“I don’t think reducing the time for isolation overall is a bad idea,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization at the University of Saskatchewan in Canada. “But saying, ‘Five days is probably OK, based on Delta, so let’s give it a shot and see,’ is really not what you should be doing.”

Labor groups have also protested the guidance, fearing that employers will require sick employees to return to work after five days, when they might still be contagious.

“It’s only going to lead to more illness, more cases,” said Jean Ross, president of National Nurses United, during an appearance on CNN.

Sarah Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants, told CNN separately that her union is concerned that the CDC changed its policy after receiving pressure from business groups to do so. Last week, Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian and company chief health officer Henry Ting, along with medical adviser Carlos del Rio, sent a letter to Walensky urging the CDC to shorten the isolation period from 10 days to five.

"Our concern is that this is putting all the onus on the workers and when you put policies forward that are pro-business and not grounded in public health, it gives people reason to pause and not trust our public health requirement," Nelson said.

The problem is that even people who were fully compliant with social distancing, masking, and vaccination mandates are testing positive for COVID-19. Hundreds of flights were canceled over Christmas weekend because flight crew members tested positive for COVID, despite airline employee vaccine mandates, and had to call in sick, without anyone to replace them.

Faced with a virus that is continuing to infect even those that have fully complied with the government's guidance, the Biden administration can either continue to insist that people adhere to its recommendations — which will shut down the economy again — or they can change the guidance to keep the economy open. It appears they have chosen the latter, frustrating health experts.

"I wish they just came out and said [the real reason]," George Washington University public health professor and former Planned Parenthood president Leana Wen said on CNN Tuesday, according to The Hill. "Tests actually are needed to exit isolation, but if we don't even have enough tests right now to test symptomatic people, then we cannot possibly issue a guidance for all of America to exit isolation that way."

(h/t: Hot Air)

Miami Herald faces backlash for running 'misleading' headline on Florida COVID-19 deaths



The Miami Herald used what many are calling a "misleading" headline on an article about COVID-19 deaths in Florida, which garnered thousands of clicks and shares from detractors of Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The Miami Herald published an article with the headline: "Florida COVID update: 901 added deaths, largest single-day increase in pandemic history."

The headline caused a stir because the deadliest day for the entire United States during the pandemic was on Jan. 7 with 4,489 new coronavirus deaths, according to Worldometer. However, the headline didn't reveal the entire story about the 901 COVID-19 newly reported deaths in Florida.

The headline was also utilized by critics of DeSantis, the Republican governor who bucked many coronavirus policies and stances embraced by Democrats. The article was shared on Twitter by MSNBC personalities, Lincoln Project employees, and liberals.

Leftists even compared the disingenuous COVID-19 framing to the U.S. service members who died in the terrorist attacks in Afghanistan. Other Twitter users weaponized the headline to attack DeSantis.

The article received massive exposure and thousands of "likes" by being shared on social media.

My godhttps://t.co/v9ko3My1Qp

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) 1630010770.0


901 Covid deaths in Florida, the largest single-day increase in pandemic historyhttps://t.co/bFWnZH5zp7

— Chris Jansing (@ChrisJansing) 1630014688.0


Florida adds 901 COVID deaths, largest single-day increase in pandemic history https://t.co/k7lU4bQ5VC

— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) 1630011960.0


It’s going GREAT for Governor Freedumb. https://t.co/kCtadm2Wcr

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) 1630009498.0


We have had more deaths in Florida from COVID-19 in the first 26 days of August than the US has had among uniformed… https://t.co/CgbBTsGrts

— Fernand (Pro-Democracy) Amandi (@AmandiOnAir) 1630012710.0


12 people died in Afghanistan. 901 died in in Florida yesterday because of covid.And you're mad at who?

— Keith Edwards (@keithedwards) 1630015310.0


Florida on Thursday reported 21,765 more COVID-19 cases and 901 deaths - largest single-day increase since start of… https://t.co/iRnkROLreI

— Peter Schorsch (@PeterSchorschFL) 1630009257.0


With a nod of (bitter) thanks to @govrondesantis - #Florida COVID update: 901 added deaths, largest single-day incr… https://t.co/2WdUKAVKsD

— Ana Veciana-Suarez (@AnaVeciana) 1630077247.0


To get a sense of how bad a job Desantis is doing, Florida reported yesterday 26,203 new COVID cases, the highest d… https://t.co/MxkOQIuBar

— Thomas Kennedy (@tomaskenn) 1630019166.0

The South Florida Sun Sentinel also used a questionable headline, claiming that there were "901 new deaths," instead of specifically saying "newly reported deaths."

Here is the actual distribution of the “new” deaths, which would more accurately be labeled “newly reported.”If y… https://t.co/R51GYCt5ia

— Max (@MaxNordau) 1630064020.0

Florida did not encounter 901 COVID-19 deaths in one single day, but over the course of weeks.

"Florida on Thursday reported 21,765 more COVID-19 cases and 901 deaths to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, according to Miami Herald calculations of CDC data," the Miami Herald wrote in its article. "All but two of the newly reported deaths occurred after July 25, with about 78% of those people dying in the past two weeks, according to Herald calculations of data published by the CDC. The majority of deaths happened during Florida's latest surge in COVID-19 cases, fueled by the delta variant."

The day the Miami Herald article was published, there were eight COVID-19 deaths reported in Florida and the 7-day moving average was 53 deaths, according to Worldometer. The most coronavirus deaths in Florida for one day is 242 on Aug. 5, 2020.

It's difficult to write something more dishonest than "largest single-day increase in pandemic history," but some p… https://t.co/gZ4NoFrlyn

— Max (@MaxNordau) 1630022641.0

Devoun Cetoute, the Miami Herald reporter who wrote the story, reacted to the backlash.

"Reading the story and our transparency note would explain so much," Cetoute tweeted. "CDC reports 901 more deaths to FL death total = single day increase Death data is now by when people died not when FL reports it. All explained in story."

Christina Pushaw, the press secretary for DeSantis, skewered the Miami Herald for the headline.

"'Factually accurate' but misleading narrative framing," Pushaw wrote on Twitter. "Omitted that the 901 deaths occurred over a period of weeks, so readers wrongly assume it's a single-day death toll. A lie of omission is still a lie."

"It's sensationalistic and dishonest to imply that 901 people died in a day when was actually a culmination of several weeks of data being reported at once," Pushaw told Fox News. "By the same logic the Miami Herald used in its misleading headline, the liberal media could also say 'New York reported 12,000 deaths in a single day,' but of course they will not."

Pushaw was referring to the announcement made by New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) this week, where she said that former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) undercounted 12,000 COVID-19 deaths in the state.