'You’re f***ing with definitions': Joe Rogan RIPS Biden admin for 'gaslighting' about the economy
On “The Joe Rogan Experience,” popular Spotify podcaster Joe Rogan ripped into the Biden administration for refusing to admit that the economy is in a recession.
Rogan's guest and fellow podcaster Chris Williamson brought up how the Biden administration is saying that the economy is not in a recession after two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth, which until "very, very, very recently" was the "accepted definition" of a recession.
\u201c"Hey, you\u2019re f**king with definitions in order to pretend that you\u2019re doing a good job."\n\n@joerogan and @ChrisWillx roast the Biden Admin for trying to change the definition of a recession. \nhttps://t.co/3sRfpI09f1\u201d— Free Speech America (@Free Speech America) 1659540053
“Well, that’s gaslighting,” Rogan responded.
“People would think that it’s trivial because they are talking about this economic downturn, but it’s not trivial because we’ve always used that term ‘recession'. And we’ve always used that term to define whether or not the economic policies that are currently in place, and whether or not the management and the government, has done a good job of making sure that the economy stays in a good place. They definitely haven’t done that. So in order to escape that ... they’re literally changing the definition, which is terrible," he added.
\u201cJoe Rogan reacts to Biden Administration changing the definition of a "recession": "You're f*ucking with definitions in order to pretend that you're doing a good job."\u201d— The Post Millennial (@The Post Millennial) 1659469293
Rogan asserted that the administration's gaslighting “should be pushed back against in a big way. It should be something that people get angry about, like, ‘Hey, you’re f***ing with definitions in order to pretend that you’re doing a good job.''"
Williamson agreed, adding "You don't change reality by changing what those words actually mean. But if you can’t control the economy, you might as well just control the language."
“What a bunch of weasels," Rogan replied.
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Wikipedia changes editing rules as users fight over definition of 'recession'
Wikipedia has implemented restrictions for new and unregistered users who try to edit its page about recession. According to The Hill, new users and anonymous users will be able to make changes to the recession page, but their edits will be subject to review from volunteer editors.
The definition of recession has been under intense debate since last week, when the Commerce Department revealed U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) fell by an annualized rate of 0.9% during the second quarter of 2022. This followed a 1.6% contraction in the first quarter with an annualized rate of 1.6%.
Traditionally, two consecutive quarters of decreasing GDP — which measures the goods and services a country produces — is considered a recession. However, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has denied the U.S. is in a recession. During a recent appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press," Yellen stated, "This is not an economy that's in recession. But we're in a period of transition in which growth is slowing and that's necessary and appropriate and we need to be growing at a steady and sustainable pace." President Biden has similarly said that the current economic situation “doesn’t sound like a recession.”
Despite the common understanding of recession, there is no formal, universally accepted definition of recession. As The Hill notes, the National Bureau of Economic Research is the organization tasked with officially declaring a recession. The NBER defines a recession as “a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and lasts more than a few months.” NBER often waits until long after a recession has begun to declare that a recession is indeed under way, according to Fortune.
As UnHerd reports, until July 11, Wikipedia included in its definition of a recession “two negative consecutive quarters of growth.” But as of July 25, any mention of “two negative consecutive quarters of GDP growth” was removed from the definition section. According to the page’s revision history, users edited the page more than 180 times last week. The page received just 24 revisions in 2022 prior to last week.
Critics have accused Wikipedia of trying to erase the popular definition of recession to align itself with the Biden administration. The Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit that operates Wikipedia, has responded to these criticisms and defended the measures taken to restrict editing of the recession page. “It’s not uncommon for topics in the news to receive sudden interest on Wikipedia. Volunteer editors know this, and have created tools and mechanisms for responding to an influx of edits on articles that are in the public eye,” a spokesperson for the Wikimedia Foundation said. “Protecting an article is one common tool they use.”
Wikipedia changes editing rules as users fight over definition of 'recession'
Wikipedia has implemented restrictions for new and unregistered users who try to edit its page about recession. According to The Hill, new users and anonymous users will be able to make changes to the recession page, but their edits will be subject to review from volunteer editors.
The definition of recession has been under intense debate since last week, when the Commerce Department revealed U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) fell by an annualized rate of 0.9% during the second quarter of 2022. This followed a 1.6% contraction in the first quarter with an annualized rate of 1.6%.
Traditionally, two consecutive quarters of decreasing GDP — which measures the goods and services a country produces — is considered a recession. However, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has denied the U.S. is in a recession. During a recent appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press," Yellen stated, "This is not an economy that's in recession. But we're in a period of transition in which growth is slowing and that's necessary and appropriate and we need to be growing at a steady and sustainable pace." President Biden has similarly said that the current economic situation “doesn’t sound like a recession.”
Despite the common understanding of recession, there is no formal, universally accepted definition of recession. As The Hill notes, the National Bureau of Economic Research is the organization tasked with officially declaring a recession. The NBER defines a recession as “a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and lasts more than a few months.” NBER often waits until long after a recession has begun to declare that a recession is indeed under way, according to Fortune.
As UnHerd reports, until July 11, Wikipedia included in its definition of a recession “two negative consecutive quarters of growth.” But as of July 25, any mention of “two negative consecutive quarters of GDP growth” was removed from the definition section. According to the page’s revision history, users edited the page more than 180 times last week. The page received just 24 revisions in 2022 prior to last week.
Critics have accused Wikipedia of trying to erase the popular definition of recession to align itself with the Biden administration. The Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit that operates Wikipedia, has responded to these criticisms and defended the measures taken to restrict editing of the recession page. “It’s not uncommon for topics in the news to receive sudden interest on Wikipedia. Volunteer editors know this, and have created tools and mechanisms for responding to an influx of edits on articles that are in the public eye,” a spokesperson for the Wikimedia Foundation said. “Protecting an article is one common tool they use.”
Elon Musk easily TRIGGERS Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales with 5-word tweet amid recession definition feud
After the U.S. posted two straight quarters of negative GDP growth, the Biden administration conveniently decided to change the conventional (though not "technical," according to Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen) definition of "recession." Recent changes to the “recession” page on Wikipedia now have people wondering if the online encyclopedia has conveniently changed the conventional definition of "objective."
After a revision war erupted on Wikipedia's “recession” page, administrators locked the page from any further edits. Some people on Twitter seemed to find the newly un-editable version suspiciously favorable to Democrats.
\u201cWikipedia has changed the definition of recession.\n\nWayback's last capture was July 11, 2022. \n\nBased on Wiki's changelog, the line: "There is no global consensus on the definition of a recession" was added on July 27. \n\nThe page is now locked.\u201d— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) 1659050280
\u201c#Wikipedia comes to the Democrats' rescue again. Changes definition of #Recession. Wayback's last capture was July 11, 2022. Based on Wiki's changelog, the line: "There is no global consensus on the definition of a recession" was added on July 27. And they 'sem-locked' the page.\u201d— Climate Dispatch (@Climate Dispatch) 1659015287
\u201c@unusual_whales Correct! Specifically, the most important change, memory-holing the oft-used "two quarters" rubric was made on the very day that the first 1Q GDP decline estimate was released. Huh. \n\nhttps://t.co/p0Cxpidapa\u201d— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) 1659050280
\u201c\u201cInflation is Prosperity. \nRecession is growth. \nShortage is Abundance\u201d\u201d— Coinbits | DCA into bitcoin (@Coinbits | DCA into bitcoin) 1659016862
That's when Elon Musk jumped into the fray. "Wikipedia is losing its objectivity," Musk tweeted and tagged Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales.
\u201c@micsolana Wikipedia is losing its objectivity @jimmy_wales\u201d— Mike Solana (@Mike Solana) 1659046490
Wales responded by inviting Musk to call him for a "real discussion," but only after saying "Reading too much Twitter nonsense is making you stupid."
\u201c@elonmusk @micsolana Elon kindly take a moment to read this: https://t.co/8MydQ8SNyW\n\nReading too much Twitter nonsense is making you stupid. Call me next week if you want a real discussion. @elonmusk\u201d— Mike Solana (@Mike Solana) 1659046490
\u201c@jimmy_wales @elonmusk @micsolana How classy. @elonmusk points out the obvious, @jimmy_wales replies with an insult \ud83d\ude44\u201d— Mike Solana (@Mike Solana) 1659046490
\u201c@jimmy_wales @elonmusk @micsolana Your cofounder has also criticized Wikipedia\u2019s bias. Rather then condescendingly writing off criticisms from @elonmusk perhaps you should heed the warning while your site\u2019s reputation still has a chance of being salvaged.\u201d— Mike Solana (@Mike Solana) 1659046490
\u201c@jimmy_wales @elonmusk @micsolana Not a great look jimmy\u201d— Mike Solana (@Mike Solana) 1659046490
\u201c@jimmy_wales @elonmusk @micsolana I'd love to listen to that call.\u201d— Mike Solana (@Mike Solana) 1659046490
\u201c@Entrepreneur_NP @Lotitto @elonmusk @micsolana @Wikipedia What would I have to be frustrated about? The claim is obviously ridiculous and I said so. End of.\u201d— Mike Solana (@Mike Solana) 1659046490
On "The Glenn Beck Program," Glenn said he thinks the left would do anything to win an argument or to justify its radical policy positions, including alter our language. In the video clip below, Glenn details how those on the left have recently manipulated the meanings of at least seven words just to rationalize their out-of-touch political ideas.\u201c@jimmy_wales @elonmusk @micsolana Dang. I think Elon hit a nerve\u201d— Mike Solana (@Mike Solana) 1659046490
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