Marc Maron, king of the 'fascist'-fighting hacks



Marc Maron is a hack. His politics are hack. His comedy is hack. Marc Maron is a hack’s hack.

“Beware,” comedian Freddy Nietzsche warned me one night at an open mic in Echo Park, “that when fighting hacks, you yourself do not become a hack.” That’s why I’m trying not to gaze too long into the Maron, but rather steal a glance here and there. The algorithm helps, throwing clips my way from Maron’s latest podcast appearances and comedy specials. Little bites. Not big enough to choke on.

To be fair, 'End Times Fun' came out five years ago, so I was ready to let it slide, but then a fan of mine said that Maron was giving him Doug Allen vibes.

The one that kicked it off for me was a recent appearance Maron made on "Howie Mandel Does Stuff," where Maron went after “anti-woke” comedians.

Maron has a number of problems with the anti-woke — like the way they've brought back an offensive slur (let's just call it "the R-word") for those with intellectual disabilities. As an outspoken progressive, Maron is adamant that every person has a right to be treated with dignity and respect — after a "cool-down" period during which their mothers choose whether or not to abort them, of course.

If anything, people with Down syndrome and the like deserve extra dignity and respect, seeing as up to 85% of them in America don't make it past this competitive first round. (In Iceland, it's closer to 100%.) It takes a special person to beat those odds!

Your move, Mr. Drumpf

But the one Maron grievance that stood out to me was that he accused the anti-woke comics of being hacks — that is, they’re all doing the same tired material.

I found it ironic to hear Maron accuse others of being hacks when I had just watched a clip from his 2020 Netflix special, "End Times Fun," that was so heavy with hackiness that Maron had to sit down on a stool to deliver it.

Trump is probably the most horrible human that ever lived in any capacity, doing anything. Not a political statement. That is observational. Completely observational.

To be fair, "End Times Fun" came out five years ago, so I was ready to let it slide, but then a fan of mine said that Maron was giving him Doug Allen vibes.

For those who don’t know who Doug Allen is, back in 2017, Donald Trump was such hacky material that writer Luke Spallino and I developed a fake comedy persona named Doug Allen, whom we sold as the only comedian brave enough to make fun of Donald Trump and the only comic with the guts to take on the most protected class — the one thing you are not allowed to make fun of — straight white men.

(Watch our fake trailer for Doug Allen’s comedy special "Edgy" below, and be sure to scroll through the comments to see who did and did not get the joke.)

So three years after Doug Allen “spoke truth to power,” Maron was hacking away. And now in 2025, the guy’s still hacking it.

Hit-ler or miss

This time, in a clip from his new HBO special, "Panicked," Maron takes on comedian Theo Von for having had Donald Trump on his podcast, "This Past Weekend," before the 2024 presidential election.

The stool is on stage — it might be the same stool from his other special — but somehow Maron, older but still looking five years younger, manages the strength to stand and deliver this: "I think if Hitler were alive today, he’d probably appear on Theo Von’s podcast …"

Von is used as an avatar for Maron’s nemesis, the anti-woke podcaster. I have to admit the bit itself is pretty good — I actually would be interested in hearing Von talk to Hitler about meth — but comparing Trump to Hitler is about as hack as you can get. C’mon, Maron.

For a decade, it’s been so bad that when a prominent advocate for people living with Trump derangement syndrome switched it up with a reference to OG fascist Benito Mussolini, I tried to nominate the poor guy for a Mark Twain Prize.

I’d love to see more Trump/Il Duce comparisons. Or at the very least, if you’re going to insist on calling anyone Hitler, how about you include the year too? Like, are we talking 1939 Hitler or 1944 Hitler? I mean, no one gets compared to art-school Hitler enough!

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Power hour

Marc Maron — perhaps himself acting a little bit like art-school Hitler — is upset with the power he claims anti-woke comedians and podcasters wield. It’s similar to power that Maron himself once had. Do you remember in 2015 when President Obama sat down with Maron in his garage to record an episode of Maron’s insanely popular podcast, "WTF"?

It was an interesting episode. Maron’s goal was to connect with the president as a person, which he did. Maron wasn’t there to talk policy — even though President Obama spent a good portion of the episode defending his policies, with no pushback whatsoever from his gracious host.

I get it. Maron respected Obama, supported him, and they were recording days after Dylann Roof carried out his mass murder at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina.

It would have been awkward for Maron to bring up — well, all the issues I had with Obama. But at no point did I think it was his job to do so. They could have talked about cocaine, though. Which would have been a good listen, considering Maron’s tales of partying with Sam Kinison. (Personally, I’d rather do cocaine with Obama than meth with Hitler.)

At the beginning of the episode, Obama says it “would be a problem if the president was feeling stressed about coming to your garage for a podcast.” It’s a funny moment. I mean, why would the president be stressed about talking with Marc Maron? Maron saves his probing for truly evil men like … Gallagher.

Anti-woke ... or anti-joke?

Speaking as an anti-woke comedian, I credit Marc Maron and other members of his faith for showing me the way. While they spent years going after the same safe subjects, it gave me the opportunity to take on their sacred cows.

Now I’m not saying all jokes about Donald Trump are hack or all jokes about trans people are funny. It’s my job as a comedian — even when I’m not getting paid for it, which is often — to hold myself accountable: to go for the funny and be original. There are still strong punch lines yet to be created — they can be “anti-woke” or even woke.

But the idea, according to Maron, that the anti-woke won — that the culture and even policy have decidedly become anti-woke — is ridiculous. While Maron complains about Joe Rogan’s guest lists and scoffs at Ricky Gervais, male criminals are still serving their sentences in women’s prisons, anti-white racists still have well-paying jobs at the New Yorker, and those who don’t know history are doomed to compare everything to Hitler.

So yeah, there’s still so much woke stuff to make fun of that it’s R-word.

'I can't do this': Dana White admits walkout from Howie Mandel podcast was staged



UFC President Dana White revealed that a viral moment when he walked off the set of a podcast was staged and that it was discussed with the host beforehand.

White appeared on legendary comedian Howie Mandel's podcast in February 2024, and after Mandel praised the fight promoter, White declared he was done with podcasts and walked out of frame after just 30 seconds.

"Thank you for all the kind words; I appreciate it," White said. "I am so f***ing tired of doing podcasts. I am literally done with them. I am not doing any more podcasts," he added before walking off.

However, months later, White explained that events occurred during a promotional appearance that caused him to break his promise to Mandel and reveal that the walkout was staged.

The UFC president said that after he appeared on "The Sage Steele Show" — which had a viral moment of its own — he was approached by Mandel.

'Whoa, whoa, whoa, time out, I can't do this. Howie Mandel's the greatest f***ing dude ever. Sorry, Howie.'

"She was signed to Bill Maher's podcast company, and they're all done there in Howie Mandel's studio," White told comedians Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh on the "Flagrant" podcast.

"So we get done with the podcast and Howie Mandel walks in and he's like, '100 podcasts a week happen here. I've never watched any of them. I watched the whole podcast. Love who you are, what you stand for' and all this stuff. And we hit it off, started talking. Great dude," White continued.

"He's like, 'Let me show you around the studio.' He's involved in all kinds of s***," White said of Mandel. "He owns social media companies and all this other stuff. Howie Mandel owns a lot of s*** that people don't realize. Smart guy, great guy. So we're walking through and stuff and he goes, 'Would you do me a favor?' And I said, 'Yeah, what's up?' He's like, 'Would you come in and get up and walk off my podcast?' I go, 'I would be f***ing honored to walk off your podcast because I'm so f***ing sick of doing podcasts, it's not even funny.'"

White added that the timing worked out perfectly because he was indeed sick of doing podcasts.

"So we go in there and do it, right? He's like, 'Take this to the grave.' I said, 'Done, I'll take it to the grave.'"

Unfortunately, White was not able to keep the secret, but only because of his good nature. While doing a promotional tour with pranksters and entrepreneurs the Nelk Boys, White said a huge crowd of youngsters started chanting "f**k Howie Mandel!" over and over again. White said he couldn't let the fans go on thinking poorly of Mandel.

"I go, 'Whoa, whoa, whoa, time out, I can't do this,'" White recalled. "Howie Mandel's the greatest f***ing dude ever. Sorry, Howie. It's just when I go out and people just start f***ing s***ting on the guy. And I'm sure he could give a flying f*** — I couldn't do it. So Howie Mandel's f***ing awesome."

Although White broke that promise, he soon made another before the end of the "Flagrant" podcast. White said that after appearing on the Tom Brady roast that saw him perform jokes, he promised he would never do stand-up comedy again.

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'They’re not damaged, they’re complaining': Howie Mandel says the days of 'woke' are numbered



Comedian and TV host Howie Mandel praised comedians who are pure to their artform and said that because of comedians who have refused to censor themselves, the pendulum is swinging away from woke audiences.

Mandel appeared on the "Stand-Up World Podcast" and started by reminiscing about the days when comedy fans could go to a club and see comedians who "seem to be breaking the rules."

Comedians were "talking about things you didn't hear people talk about publicly," unlike what you might see on the "Tonight Show" or any other mainstream comedy format.

The former "Deal or No Deal" host then described when he thought audiences started taking offense with politically correct points of view.

"A couple of years ago political awareness kind of took over, even before this whatever people call 'woke,' it started in colleges you know? A lot of my friends who used to play colleges. You'd think you'd play to colleges because that would be the young, open-minded people where you could go so far. They were the first people to really shut down, but I think the pendulum swung really far into the woke," Mandel explained.

However, Mandel said the pendulum swung too far into "woke" and cited a number of comedians who he thinks have brought true comedy back.

"I feel like with people like Shane Gillis and Bert Kreischer and Ari Shaffir and all these Austin comics and all these new guys — Mark Normand — and all these people, these people who don't give a s**t about that and believe in the purity of what it is."

"[They] are bringing the pendulum back and they're selling bigger numbers than anybody that is trying to conform to whatever you believe you need to conform to," he claimed.

Comedian Kreischer starring in a 2023 movie about his life, Shaffir's successful comedy special on YouTube, and Gillis' monstrous comeback that included a "Saturday Night Live" appearance and a Bud Light sponsorship are just some of the accolades these comedians have acquired.


Mandel went on to describe the hypocrisy of viewers getting offended by comedy, as "humor comes out of darkness."

"That’s why the tragedy and comedy masks are so close together," Mandel continued. "If you’re a little kid and you go to the circus you’re laughing at a clown falling down. You’re laughing at the misfortune of somebody you don’t know."

"If something bad doesn’t happen, it’s not funny. If something embarrassing doesn’t happen, it’s not funny. If something awkward doesn’t happen, it’s not funny," he explained.

Touching on cancel culture, Mandel described how easy it is to simply not listen to a comedian if you find what they say to be offensive.

"You don’t have to laugh at the joke. You don’t have to like the joke. You don’t even have to get the joke."

He added that jokes have never actually harmed anyone, and those who have claimed to have suffered from comedy, have not.

"Who is damaged by this? Who has ever been damaged by comedy? Ever? Ever?! ... They’re not damaged, they’re complaining,” Mandel concluded.

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'They never said you won't get COVID!' Howie Mandel challenges RFK Jr. on vaccine efficacy



Robert F. Kennedy Jr. had a lively exchange with television host and podcaster Howie Mandel surrounding claims in the media that were made about the efficacy of COVIID-19 vaccines. Mandel argued that the messaging was not as misleading as Kennedy was making it out to be.

On Mandel's "Howie Mandel Does Stuff" podcast, Kennedy attempted explained that the claims that were made after clinical COVID-19 vaccine trials were not transparent.

Mandel acknowledged that there was an at-risk group of obese, ill, or older people who were more likely to need vaccination.

Kennedy described Pfizer's clinical trial.

"The clinical trial study, you had 22,000 people who took the vaccine and 22,000 people got the placebo, and what the result was after six months, they had to hand that data to FDA in order to get the emergency use authorization," Kennedy began. "That data showed that in the vaccine group there was one COVID death of 22,000 people over six months; in the unvaccinated group there were two COVID deaths of 22,000 people, so that allowed the company to tell the public the vaccine is 100% effective."

"That's a misnomer," Mandel quickly replied. "100% effective in as far as ... because I saw people on the news going 'well, I got the vaccine, I still got COVID.' They never said you won't get COVID; they just said that it'll kind of pull back the severity of it."

Kennedy then reiterated, "What they're saying, out of 22,000 people there was one COVID death among the vaccinated and there was two COVID deaths on the unvaccinated 22,000 people, and that allowed them to claim it's 100% effective."

"Effective for what? You can't use the word effective," Mandel exclaimed.

"You remember they kept saying it's 100% effective?" Kennedy asked.

"No, they just said it will negate the severity. ... The word 'effective' didn't say you won't get [it], I never heard 'you won't get COVID,'" Mandel added.

"It's not 100% effective, okay, because if that's the metric, what they really should have been telling us is that to prevent one COVID death, they need to give 22,000 vaccines."

\xf0\x9f\x94\xa5 Howie Mandel Tries to Rewrite History on the COVID Vaccine & Immediately Gets Schooled by RFK Jr.\n\nHOWIE: "They never said you won't get COVID"\n\nRFK JR: "I saw a tape yesterday of them all saying it...Can I play it for you?"\n\nHOWIE: "Well, wait wait wait...It doesn't matter\xe2\x80\xa6
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Mandel later summarized his position by explaining that many of the decisions made by the establishment were rushed due to panic.

"I believe a lot of mistakes were made, but we were panicked, and you know, we made decisions based on the amount of information that we had at the moment," he said, adding that guidance evolved as more information came to fruition.

The TV-panel judge also plainly asked Kennedy if he was "anti-vaccine," to which the politician replied, "If you show me a vaccine that was safe and effective, that did what it was supposed to do, I would have no problem with it."


Mandel, a longtime comedian, has continually stepped out of his typical element in recent months to support free speech and open commentary.

In December 2023 Mandel appeared on the popular comedy podcast "Kill Tony" and praised the show for its free speech mentality.

"There's no such thing as political correctness; it's comedy! And now I live in L.A. and it's it's tough. I can't say what I want to say," he explained. "Only you give people a platform to do it right. It's funny, it's raw, [the audience isn't] recording it, you can say anything on this show!" he yelled.

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