Marc Maron, king of the 'fascist'-fighting hacks



Marc Maron is a hack. His politics are hack. His comedy is hack. Marc Maron is a hack’s hack.

“Beware,” comedian Freddy Nietzsche warned me one night at an open mic in Echo Park, “that when fighting hacks, you yourself do not become a hack.” That’s why I’m trying not to gaze too long into the Maron, but rather steal a glance here and there. The algorithm helps, throwing clips my way from Maron’s latest podcast appearances and comedy specials. Little bites. Not big enough to choke on.

To be fair, 'End Times Fun' came out five years ago, so I was ready to let it slide, but then a fan of mine said that Maron was giving him Doug Allen vibes.

The one that kicked it off for me was a recent appearance Maron made on "Howie Mandel Does Stuff," where Maron went after “anti-woke” comedians.

Maron has a number of problems with the anti-woke — like the way they've brought back an offensive slur (let's just call it "the R-word") for those with intellectual disabilities. As an outspoken progressive, Maron is adamant that every person has a right to be treated with dignity and respect — after a "cool-down" period during which their mothers choose whether or not to abort them, of course.

If anything, people with Down syndrome and the like deserve extra dignity and respect, seeing as up to 85% of them in America don't make it past this competitive first round. (In Iceland, it's closer to 100%.) It takes a special person to beat those odds!

Your move, Mr. Drumpf

But the one Maron grievance that stood out to me was that he accused the anti-woke comics of being hacks — that is, they’re all doing the same tired material.

I found it ironic to hear Maron accuse others of being hacks when I had just watched a clip from his 2020 Netflix special, "End Times Fun," that was so heavy with hackiness that Maron had to sit down on a stool to deliver it.

Trump is probably the most horrible human that ever lived in any capacity, doing anything. Not a political statement. That is observational. Completely observational.

To be fair, "End Times Fun" came out five years ago, so I was ready to let it slide, but then a fan of mine said that Maron was giving him Doug Allen vibes.

For those who don’t know who Doug Allen is, back in 2017, Donald Trump was such hacky material that writer Luke Spallino and I developed a fake comedy persona named Doug Allen, whom we sold as the only comedian brave enough to make fun of Donald Trump and the only comic with the guts to take on the most protected class — the one thing you are not allowed to make fun of — straight white men.

(Watch our fake trailer for Doug Allen’s comedy special "Edgy" below, and be sure to scroll through the comments to see who did and did not get the joke.)

So three years after Doug Allen “spoke truth to power,” Maron was hacking away. And now in 2025, the guy’s still hacking it.

Hit-ler or miss

This time, in a clip from his new HBO special, "Panicked," Maron takes on comedian Theo Von for having had Donald Trump on his podcast, "This Past Weekend," before the 2024 presidential election.

The stool is on stage — it might be the same stool from his other special — but somehow Maron, older but still looking five years younger, manages the strength to stand and deliver this: "I think if Hitler were alive today, he’d probably appear on Theo Von’s podcast …"

Von is used as an avatar for Maron’s nemesis, the anti-woke podcaster. I have to admit the bit itself is pretty good — I actually would be interested in hearing Von talk to Hitler about meth — but comparing Trump to Hitler is about as hack as you can get. C’mon, Maron.

For a decade, it’s been so bad that when a prominent advocate for people living with Trump derangement syndrome switched it up with a reference to OG fascist Benito Mussolini, I tried to nominate the poor guy for a Mark Twain Prize.

I’d love to see more Trump/Il Duce comparisons. Or at the very least, if you’re going to insist on calling anyone Hitler, how about you include the year too? Like, are we talking 1939 Hitler or 1944 Hitler? I mean, no one gets compared to art-school Hitler enough!

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Power hour

Marc Maron — perhaps himself acting a little bit like art-school Hitler — is upset with the power he claims anti-woke comedians and podcasters wield. It’s similar to power that Maron himself once had. Do you remember in 2015 when President Obama sat down with Maron in his garage to record an episode of Maron’s insanely popular podcast, "WTF"?

It was an interesting episode. Maron’s goal was to connect with the president as a person, which he did. Maron wasn’t there to talk policy — even though President Obama spent a good portion of the episode defending his policies, with no pushback whatsoever from his gracious host.

I get it. Maron respected Obama, supported him, and they were recording days after Dylann Roof carried out his mass murder at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina.

It would have been awkward for Maron to bring up — well, all the issues I had with Obama. But at no point did I think it was his job to do so. They could have talked about cocaine, though. Which would have been a good listen, considering Maron’s tales of partying with Sam Kinison. (Personally, I’d rather do cocaine with Obama than meth with Hitler.)

At the beginning of the episode, Obama says it “would be a problem if the president was feeling stressed about coming to your garage for a podcast.” It’s a funny moment. I mean, why would the president be stressed about talking with Marc Maron? Maron saves his probing for truly evil men like … Gallagher.

Anti-woke ... or anti-joke?

Speaking as an anti-woke comedian, I credit Marc Maron and other members of his faith for showing me the way. While they spent years going after the same safe subjects, it gave me the opportunity to take on their sacred cows.

Now I’m not saying all jokes about Donald Trump are hack or all jokes about trans people are funny. It’s my job as a comedian — even when I’m not getting paid for it, which is often — to hold myself accountable: to go for the funny and be original. There are still strong punch lines yet to be created — they can be “anti-woke” or even woke.

But the idea, according to Maron, that the anti-woke won — that the culture and even policy have decidedly become anti-woke — is ridiculous. While Maron complains about Joe Rogan’s guest lists and scoffs at Ricky Gervais, male criminals are still serving their sentences in women’s prisons, anti-white racists still have well-paying jobs at the New Yorker, and those who don’t know history are doomed to compare everything to Hitler.

So yeah, there’s still so much woke stuff to make fun of that it’s R-word.

Escape from Brooklyn Heights



My oldest son turned four a few days ago. His younger brother will be three later this year. When we celebrate their birthdays, I celebrate my birth into fatherhood: a new dad, living in Brooklyn, a pandemic daddy — trying to do what’s best for my family.

I love my boys and my wife who gifted them to me. But I have thought of abandoning them.

If you think it takes a village to raise a child, you better be real picky about who you let into your village.

Why?

Because single mothers are heroes.

And what kind of man would I be to stand in the way of my wife becoming a hero? The best way for me to fight the patriarchy is to stop being a patriarch.

Yeah, if I were still living in Brooklyn, that would be the way. But I don’t live in Brooklyn anymore. Oh, my poor wife and kids.

This used to be my playground

Before the kids, there was Brooklyn Heights. Before COVID, there was Brooklyn Heights. What I miss most about the Heights is walking. My wife and I took frequent strolls through the neighborhood. One Sunday, I think we left the apartment five times to take a different route. When she was pregnant with our first, the further along into her pregnancy she got, the more her pace slowed and the distance we traveled shortened. But any amount of time outside was important.

When the weather is right in New York City, you forget about how most of the year it’s awful. With the right amount of sun, air, and humor, you can even forget that you’re living through a pandemic.

“I can’t believe you’re bringing a child into the world during a plague!” one might say.

Well, can you think of a better time to repopulate the Earth?

We brought our son home from the hospital — normally they hold mommy and baby for 48 hours, but with COVID-19 creeping around, they were released 24 hours earlier than usual.

In the days following his birth, we made sure to continue our walks. We had a third wheel now to slow us down, but he was in a Doona: an infant car seat that also transforms into a stroller. So, with alternate side-parking rules suspended indefinitely and no telling what future mayoral decrees would bring, we were ready to collapse the stroller, strap it into the backseat of our Honda, and hightail it out of the city if we felt the heat around the corner.

One morning on our way to the Promenade, my wife and I noticed that the gate to the Pierrepont Playground was chained shut. Sure, our son was too small to play on any of the equipment. But even though we sometimes felt like we were the last people on Earth, we knew that wasn’t the case. There were other children out there — stuck indoors — because good people “followed the science” and closed down the monkey bars.

The playgrounds were finally reopened in late June, with dog parks to follow. I sat on a bench outside the Pierrepont Playground one afternoon with my son in my arms. The playground was filled with kids of all ages and adults wearing face-coverings.

Inequality is real! I thought, looking at the adults. Some parents aren’t wealthy enough to afford au pairs from Europe, so they have to settle for nannies from Central America.

Orange you glad I didn't say 'Trump'?

An old woman sitting on a bench next to ours got my attention. She was in love with my son, she said, and wanted to take him home.

It would be easy to go down the creepy path — go down that way if you want to — but that’s not what this was about. This woman was in her 80s and had been locked up inside her home for the past few months. It would drive me crazy, I know, but she was all there. COVID-19 really had it out for people her age — and I’m sure she knew that — but the playgrounds were open again. It was perfect outside. And she had just met a gorgeous lil baby named Andreas.

I noticed she wore her blue surgical mask around her neck and had a hardcover book with her. I was maskless too and asked her what she was reading.

It was "Fear: Trump in the White House" by Bob Woodward. Oh no! I thought. Please don’t let this be the last book this woman reads before she dies! (Let my book be the last book she reads before she dies.)

No, I hadn’t read the book — and I still haven’t — but I had spent years watching people allow Donald Trump to consume their lives. Funny people stopped being funny and started being “brave.” Entire personas online centered on being blocked by the 45th president of the United States. And somehow Trump was responsible for, among many things, the nation’s mental health crisis, lack of sex, and at least one hurricane.

At Aretha Franklin’s funeral service in 2018, Michael Eric Dyson took the opportunity to destroy Trump.

“You lugubrious leech,” he said. “You dopey doppelgänger of deceit and deviance, you lethal liar, you dim-witted dictator, you foolish fascist.”

I found it unfortunate that Dyson chose to hammer Trump at the funeral for the Queen of Soul. What was also unfortunate was that he used the word “doppelgänger” incorrectly.

Doppelgänger is an apparition or double of a living person. It’s not an apparition or double of an idea.

So, something like “deceit and deviance incarnate” would have been correct. Or, if you’re going for rhythm and meaning, something like, “You insipid incarnation of deceit and deviance ...” I think that would have gone well with Dyson’s “orange apparition.”

While Dyson was applauded for destroying Trump, the president was the real winner. The man managed to crash the celebration of one diva’s incredible life without even being there.

If Trump was the “orange apparition” of which Dyson spoke, you can blame Dyson’s own words for summoning it.

When it comes time for my funeral, it better be all about me.

Happy feet

I spoke with the old woman on the bench for some time.

I could tell it had been awhile since her last conversation with someone. It was like that with a lot of people coming out of lockdown. Before I left, I wanted to give her a hug — but I knew letting her hold my son would mean more to her.

I couldn’t do that though. Not because of social distancing. But because my wife and I had a whole roster of quarantined loved ones who had yet to hold our baby. It wouldn’t be right.

So, I asked the old woman if she would like to touch my son’s feet.

Without waiting for her to answer, I took off his socks and put them in my pocket.

I held him in front of her, and she took his feet, one in each hand. She was gentle. She wanted to take him home.

It’s amazing how much joy one baby’s existence can bring into the world.

I thanked her and brought my son back home to our one-bedroom apartment.

From time to time, I think about that old woman. My son has grown a lot since then — he’s been walking longer than he crawled — but his feet still have that ridiculous baby magic to them. I’m fortunate to have them nearby.

During the plague, I became a pandemic daddy, lost my job, buried a friend, was labeled a “far-right radical,” then unlabeled, went a little crazy, sold an apartment in BK, and bought a house in the sticks.

While I worked on my book, my family was unable to live in that house in the sticks, because it had been gutted and made unlivable — a full reno. So, we were crammed in with my in-laws, while I hoped to finish the manuscript before our new baby arrived.

Yeah, my wife was pregnant again — we were taking this repopulate-the-planet thing seriously. And in the months following the birth of lil brother, I was gonna need more happy baby feet. I’m a comedian, after all, and was trying to figure out my future prospects.

While the pandemic and the responses to it hurt far too many people, I am one of the fortunate ones. I grew — as a husband, a father, and a comedian. Some days I feel like an outlier. Because those who went insane under Trump have stayed insane.

(Privilege) check, please!

If Trump broke you, Biden can’t fix you.

Even though we moved out of Brooklyn Heights I kept my account on the Nextdoor app, so I can check in on my old neighborhood. It feels like I’m stalking an ex-girlfriend whose life is getting worse and worse without me in it.

I read that there’s a “Parking Menace” on one block, hogging multiple spots, and a “Phantom Sh**ter” on the other, who marks his territory on the sidewalk. A spotted lanternfly was spotted in the ‘hood and an unleashed pit bull, too. Concerned residents are asking questions, like how to deal with homeless men chasing after you; when, if ever, to call the police on a person of color; and “Public Shaming Etiquette” when it comes to masks.

I am happy to be out. If you think it takes a village to raise a child, you better be real picky about who you let into your village.

What’s clear is that the same people who ruined Facebook are ruining Nextdoor — s***ty people who take pride in not living their lives and do all they can to inject themselves and their strain of politics into yours and mine. You do not want these people giving your eulogy.

A flier taped to a lamppost near the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway was promoting a community get-together — catered by Bakers Against Racism. According to Dr. Ibram X. Kendi, author of "How to Be an Antiracist," you’re either an anti-racist baker or you’re a racist baker. There is no such thing as a “not-racist” baker. Keep that in mind the next time you’re buying a black-and-white cookie from that spot in Carroll Gardens.

I got an email from a local restaurant my wife and I used to frequent. It reads in part (emphases mine):

Now as we more actively pursue the imperfect work of unpacking our own privilege we are revising our sense of purpose in the face of systemic racism and white supremacy. This is work we have supported over the years, but we haven’t been sufficiently resolute in prioritizing antiracism as a practice. We are grateful for the Black activists and our colleagues of color whose efforts have built the framework for becoming more effective allies.

Bro ... I thought. You’re a restaurant.

I know it’s hard enough to run a business under normal conditions. Imagine trying to do it during a pandemic with government-mandated lockdowns and Kafkaesque regulations. So many restaurants were hurting. Some managed to eke out a few more months of hurt before closing for good.

But “prioritizing antiracism as a practice” and the other woke boilerplate I highlighted above aren’t the ingredients to help a restaurant achieve what should be its primary goal: to make food people will pay to eat.

The last time my wife and I ate at this place, I don’t remember if the dishes were sufficiently anti-racist, but I do remember them being more than sufficiently salty. You’re not going to make a dent in systemic racism and white supremacy with all that sodium. (Although you might raise the blood pressure on what’s left of your primarily white bougie clientele.)

Whatever your activism is, nobody wants to be force-fed it. Especially if it’s a humorless, joyless, anti-life dish that sucks the taste out of everything.

But if you’re looking to add some flavor back in, become a dad. And stick around.

Haunting play 'October 7' lets Hamas terror survivors speak



I missed the show Monday night outside the Nova Music Festival Exhibition on Wall Street, where anti-Israel protesters gathered to wave Palestinian flags, light flares, and remind anyone observing the “in-depth remembrance of the brutal October 7th attack” that “IT IS RIGHT TO REBEL – ISRAEL, GO TO HELL!”

Instead, I went to Hell’s Kitchen to watch Phelim McAleer’s "October 7: In Their Own Words." McAleer’s production is a verbatim play — a documentary style of theater, which in this case means the source material comes from the testimony of real-life survivors of Hamas’ 2023 attack on the Nova Music Festival and nearby kibbutzim. McAleer and his wife, Ann McElhinney, conducted the interviews.

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This isn’t McAleer’s first dance with verbatim theater or controversy. For his play "Ferguson," McAleer used evidence and testimony presented to the grand jury in the case against Darren Wilson that ultimately cleared the police officer of charges in the shooting death of Michael Brown.

While I 'knew' what was going to happen, I was not prepared for the experience. Once the action gets going — which is pretty straight away — it doesn’t let up.

I thought going from debunking “Hands up — don’t shoot!” on stage to a play about the biggest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust would dial down the controversy. But then I remembered some early responsesto the October 7 massacre. In the days after it, when bodies and body parts were still being counted, I watched an activist get on the mic in Union Square to praise “the resistance” for taking out “at least several dozen hipsters.”And who can forget BLM Chicago using the iconography of the Hamas paragliders to declare (in a soon-to-be-deleted post) “I STAND WITH PALESTINE”?

June 10, the night I went out to review the play, coincided with the “Citywide Day of Rage for Gaza,” where anti-Israel protesters were spotted around the city (not just outside the exhibit in downtown Manhattan) with at least one banner reading “Long Live October 7th” and chants of “LONG LIVE THE INTIFADA!” I can see why all ticket-holders had to pass through a metal detector to enter the Actors Temple Theater, where "October 7" has its run.

I left my pocketknife in my car and passed through security. It was only when I took my seat and noticed some of the actors on stage dancing to techno music that I realized I’d been disarmed. It was haunting. The wise security move also worked symbolically. I was now at the Nova Music Festival, and there was nothing I could do about it. (As if a pocketknife would have helped anyway!)

While I “knew” what was going to happen, I was not prepared for the experience. Once the action gets going — which is pretty straight away — it doesn’t let up. Nearly all the actors play multiple roles, which at times makes it hard to track who’s who and where we are. Intentional or not, this kind of casting lends itself to the reality of the situation: We are thrown into the chaos of the massacre(s) happening on multiple fronts, whether it be on the festival grounds, in the kibbutzim, or on the roads that connect them.

McAleer does a fine job weaving together so many stories. There are powerful moments like the woman whostares down her would-be assassin and says, “He doesn’t deserve my fear.” Or another woman, forced to hide in her safe room while terrorists infest her home — she has nothing but some water and a pot to pee in, and in order to keep her sanity, she goes to museums in her mind.

But I believe the verbatim genre can be too restrictive, because there are moments that ring true but sentimental. For example, while there are a number of characters who attribute their survival to “God was with me,” there are none I remember who ask, “Where was God through this hell?”

Spoiler: The final line of the show, “We will dance again,” is perfect and saccharine. But considering all the bitterness in the streets surrounding the play, I’m more than fine with it.

Before the show started, I was listening to a conversation in the row behind me. A Jewish woman was explaining that she has certain friends with whom she doesn’t talk about Israel. She won’t even bring up the latest news about the hostages being rescued. Just broaching the topic risks her losing friendships. And that is the biggest downside of "October 7: In Their Own Words": to attend it is a political act. I know that’s kept many people from attending. But there are only a few dates left. Take the risk.