Rogan and Trump challenge the 'Spirit of the Age' in an epic interview



I just finished Joe Rogan’s interview with Donald Trump and wanted to share my thoughts while it’s still fresh in my mind.

This interview will likely be the most consequential political event of my lifetime — maybe ever. Future interviews will try to emulate its style and influence, making it a generational harbinger much like the Kennedy-Nixon presidential debate of 1960. But whatever comes next will only build on the precedent set here for the following reasons.

If the culture war needs voices like Rogan and Trump, so be it.

Rogan arguably has the widest reach of any show since Oprah Winfrey, and his audience is distinct: men who see themselves as truth-seekers and who distrust the current political and media landscape.

For better or worse, Rogan now guides more of the next generation of male discipleship and leadership in this country than the church does — an influence shift that the church has allowed.

Trump is arguably now the most famous living person in human history. And yet the largest platform in the country was still able to grant him the opportunity to counter so many misconceptions of who he actually is, what he actually thinks, and the resistance movement he represents.

This interview alone won't erase nearly a decade of malevolent corporate journalism, but it's a D-Day invasion-level event. The marriage of the largest alternative media platform yet devised and the biggest living threat to the current media-political-industrial complex has established a beachhead in the enemy's occupied territory. Just as June 6, 1944, forever shifted the momentum in the last great war, it is quite possible that October 25, 2024, will be seen by future generations as the great momentum-shifter in the great information war.

The benefit of this interview for candidate Trump could be equivalent to the largest and most expensive media ad buy in political history — something unattainable given the resources and precise messaging required to pull it off effectively.

This may become the most-watched interview in human history, featuring a candidate whose last two campaigns were decided by a combined margin of fewer than 130,000 votes in key swing states. It granted him an unrestricted platform to redefine himself for millions just as the election unfolds.

This single conversation inflicted more epistemological damage on the Spirit of the Age that threatens Western civilization than the Christian Church has managed in a generation. Once the institution that shaped this civilization, the church has become weakened and passive in confronting today’s cultural battles.

It was just two individuals, each with their own unconventional beliefs, pursuing truth, common sense, and the common good. It’s clear why the Spirit of the Age attempted to dismantle Rogan’s platform during the COVID-19 pandemic and has targeted Trump himself for assassination not once but twice. By contrast, it’s equally clear why many pastors don’t face such opposition — they simply aren’t seen as a threat, and tragically, few even aspire to be.

The conversation about environmentalism may be the best example. Trump demonstrated a surprising command of the issue and, in one interview, inflicted more damage on a core tenet of the left’s occult religion than I’ve ever seen in a single setting. Given Rogan’s largely post-partisan audience, the reach and impact of this moment are significant.

This was cultural evangelism in action. Trump dismantled the left's climate narrative as effectively as John of Damascus challenged Islam or Francis Schaeffer deconstructed the counterculture. This approach poses a serious threat to the prevailing Spirit of the Age.

If Trump and Rogan can reframe common sense in a way that transcends the mostly artificial partisan divide, they present a far more existential threat to societal darkness than the current state of the church, sadly. This conversation unfolds against the backdrop of leftists attacking publications like the Washington Post and Los Angeles Times for not rubbing their bellies.

This interview also signals where the culture war may go post-Trump. With the church caught up in self-censorship and essentially emasculating itself, something else must emerge to confront the darkness. Would God prefer to use our family-values pastors who speak with little vice? Absolutely. But just as Gideon sounded the trumpet for battle, the church has decided it has better things to do.

So if the culture war needs voices like Rogan and Trump, so be it. As believers, we shouldn’t compromise our core principles — we’re not allowed that luxury. But we should recognize where the battle is, go there, and stand with those willing to fight. Not everyone storming the beaches of Normandy was a devout believer, yet they fought. Cast aside your sweater vests and furrowed brows and join this fight while we still can. Joe Rogan’s interview with Donald Trump confirms that this battle will happen — with or without us.

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Why debates no longer matter in America’s spiritual and political battle



The consequences of the Trump-Harris debate will be endlessly debated (until they’re not) — but who dares bother to talk about what the heck that thing actually was?

You don’t have to believe the affair was stacked, rigged, slanted, or otherwise arranged against Trump, whether the earrings were earpieces or the “moderators” shared besties with Harris. The word-cloud candidate doesn’t have to be a literal human face stretched over a Terminator bot in order to function that way, just as Trump doesn’t have to stand literally alone in a desert plain against a tentacled hydra arrayed with heads for every bureaucratized industry for the matchup to work that way.

Those who seek to usurp the position of spiritual authority in American life historically held by the Christian churches see their chance amid the digital revolution.

But we knew all that, or something close to it, well before the so-called debate — a sort of primal dance routine augmented and intensified by layers of technology yet still no more powerful than the dominant memes of the campaign: Vance’s couch and Trump’s kittens.

The failure of this debate to amount to an actual debate is gratuitous enough on its own, but it underscores something still more dramatic: Our faith in debate as such is now clearly much too misplaced. Like it or not, the reality of our situation has put to bed the stubborn belief of so many intellectuals that truth best emerges from having the smartest people debate everything.

This is something we have also known for a long while. In the field of science, it has led to an ocean of “studies” forever contradicting other studies and eventually themselves and to an enormous replicability crisis that calls the whole prospect of “believing the science” into permanent question. Ah, we are lectured, but true science hasn’t been tried! Or, well, it has, and it has produced ... ever more powerful weapons! How’s that for a theory of truth?

The lie at the heart of the promise that the smartest will produce truth through argument has led to the collapse of science into mere technology and technology into mere militarism. Few Americans hope to become defenseless in the face of our leading rivals and adversaries. But more and more Americans are thirsting to death for some stable and trustworthy spiritual authority, which — as we all know deep down — is the real place to turn for truth, not to policies, slogans, memes, propaganda, or especially the “politics of meaning.” No matter how obvious it is whether someone is your friend or enemy, the meaning of these things is determined not by the political but the theological.

Digital technology’s galloping transformation of our inner and outer worlds has intensified the return of politics to the grounds of theology. Leading AI engineers openly refer to themselves as worshippers of the god or gods they’re building. Startups cheekily yet earnestly call themselves cults. CEOs are apt to seek not the life of the ultimate businessman but that of the temple priest, pronouncing with piety on what counts as purity. The two great factions in American politics increasingly agree on the “underlying facts,” only differing on whether “that’s a good thing” — spiritually speaking — or not.

But tech is only reminding us of something that was also obvious not long ago: Democracy is lots of things, but sacred it is not. Alexis de Tocqueville, who literally wrote the book on democracy in America, used that loaded term not as a holy relic but as a sociological label. Rather than a form of government worth jailing opponents over, democracy was, in Tocqueville’s analysis, a social form in which what he called “equality of conditions” prevailed over almost all. Crucially, Tocqueville did not limit himself to a materialist understanding of equal human conditions, focusing correctly on the conditions of the psyche or soul.

This proper understanding of what truly held Americans together — their cast of mind and heart amid their inescapable predicaments — led him to recognize that debate held extraordinarily little purchase on the American soul.

“When the conditions of men are almost equal, they do not easily allow themselves to be persuaded by each other,” he warned. “Men seldom take the opinion of their equal, or of a man like themselves, upon trust. Not only is confidence in the superior attainments of certain individuals weakened amongst democratic nations ... but the general notion of the intellectual superiority which any man whatsoever may acquire in relation to the rest of the community is soon overshadowed.” Here’s the kicker:

As men grow more like each other, the doctrine of the equality of the intellect gradually infuses itself into their opinions; and it becomes more difficult for any innovator to acquire or to exert much influence over the minds of a people. In such communities sudden intellectual revolutions will therefore be rare; for, if we read aright the history of the world, we shall find that great and rapid changes in human opinions have been produced far less by the force of reasoning than by the authority of a name. … Even when the reliance of a democratic people has been won, it is still no easy matter to gain their attention. It is extremely difficult to obtain a hearing from men living in democracies, unless it be to speak to them of themselves. ... I think that it is extremely difficult to excite the enthusiasm of a democratic people for any theory which has not a palpable, direct, and immediate connection with the daily occupations of life.

Tocqueville reveals that the major obstacle to advancing agreement through debate is democratic life itself! Large and sudden changes come more from those with spiritual authority over everyday life than from experts explaining abstract theories designed to stir up the passions.

That is why, unfortunately, these times are so perilous. Those who seek to usurp the position of spiritual authority in American life historically held by the Christian churches see their chance amid the digital revolution, whether their god is the woke god of justice or the cyborg god of consciousness. Their disinterest in debating is more attuned to the reality of our social situation than the belief of too many others that our fortunes hinge on the spiritual resurrection of John Stuart Mill. Unless American Christians can once again muster the authority to bear witness against today’s soul-destroying idolatries, the idolaters will win in a walk — no debate necessary.

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Kamala's Pravda-level debate lies — and why moderators need to be done away with all together



The first presidential debate between Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump was undoubtedly full of lies — which were permitted by the ABC moderators so long as they benefitted Kamala.

One of the most blatant lies occurred when Kamala regurgitated the out-of-context claim that Trump called white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia, “very fine people.”

“All politicians lie, but the difference that I felt and I think a lot of us watching last night is she was so brazen about it. She looked up right in the eye without flinching, without blinking, without the usually guilty symptoms,” Liz Wheeler of “The Liz Wheeler Show” tells the “Blaze News Tonight” panel.

“She lied about late-term abortion, she lied about the ‘very fine people’ Charlottesville hoax, she lied about January 6, she lied about the ‘bloodbath’ comment, she lied about crime data in our cities across the country, she lied about her stance on border security, she lied, I believe three times, about Project 2025, and she lied about fracking,” Wheeler continues.

And the ABC moderators did not fact-check Kamala once.

“I don’t like being a person that complains about that, but they really outdid themselves. I mean that was propaganda to the level of Pravda,” she adds.

Pravda was the official newspaper of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union — which ironically means "truth."

Matthew Peterson is disturbed as well, noting that Kamala “can do it and get away with it without looking like the borderline brain-dead person that we’ve seen the clips of for the last few years.”

Steve Deace agrees but also believes moderators should be done away with in general.

“I don’t know why the media has to be directly involved at all. We’ve already eliminated the presidential commission on debates, which is essentially a who’s who of swamp creatures as it is. I think we ought to just do this as jury selections,” Deace explains.

“These people are running for the most powerful office in the world. There’s no moderators when you’re negotiating with Putin and Zelenskyy. There’s no moderators when you’re over there with the little dweeb with the bull haircut and his finger on the trigger,” he adds.


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