Democratic lawmaker proposes northern states join Canada because she can't handle Trump win



Following in the footsteps of 19th century Democratic secessionists, New York state Sen. Liz Krueger (D) has raised the possibility of blue states breaking away from the Union for ideological reasons.

Krueger, a Manhattan pro-abortion activist who runs New York's Senate Finance Committee, recently told Politico, "It is not unreasonable to think outside of the box."

Krueger, like other New York radicals, is concerned that the incoming Trump administration will make good on its campaign promises, including the successful enforcement of American immigration law in her state — deporting criminal noncitizens and alleviating the strain they have placed on taxpayer-funded citizen resources.

In September, Krueger told City & State New York that were Trump to win the election, she "would suggest to Canada that instead of us all trying to illegally cross the border at night without them noticing, which is pretty hard because there's a lot of us, that they should instead agree to let us be the southeast province, a new province of Canada."

"I offered, even though I hadn't gotten agreement from other states yet, that I thought New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont, would combine and be a great new province as the southeast province of Canada," said Krueger. "Basically everybody in these states are progressive Democrats."

'We would fit in pretty well.'

Apparently, the Democrat who swore an oath to "support the Constitution of the United States" would be more than happy to trade the U.S. Constitution for Canada's highly flexible Charter of Rights and Freedoms and sell out millions of proud Americans.

Trump secured 44.1% (3,484,124) of the votes in New York; 41.9% (739,317) of the votes in Connecticut; 36.5% (1,234,961) of the votes in Massachusetts; and 32.6% (119,393) of the votes in Vermont.

"We would fit in pretty well with the political philosophy of at least most of the Canadian elected officials," said Krueger.

The Democratic lawmaker is apparently unaware that Pierre Poilievre, the populist leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, is poised to crush Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party and the socialist New Democrat Party in the upcoming election. The Conservative Party has outperformed both of the Canadian leftist parties combined in recent polls.

"I propose that this could be an option, and I got back some unofficial responses and heard this is probably sellable in Ottawa," added Krueger.

If the northern incorporation doesn't fly, then the Democratic lawmaker apparently has another unworkable alternative: withhold over $300 billion in federal taxes in order to hamstring the Trump administration.

Even Politico admitting that it's unclear how Krueger's tax-withholding plan might be accomplished, especially when a reactive cut in federal aid would greatly handicap New York.

The Office of the New York State Comptroller indicated in April that in recent years, New York has repeatedly received more from Washington, D.C., than it has paid in federal taxes. In fiscal year 2022, for instance, the state generated $361.8 billion in federal taxes and benefited from $383 billion in federal spending.

When it comes to secession and withholding taxes, Krueger is once again betting on losers.

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1 in 5 Americans support a national divorce, majority not optimistic about the country's democracy



Approximately 20% of U.S. citizens – which would represent roughly 66 million people — support the idea of a national divorce, according to a new poll.

A "Two Americas" survey by Ipsos found that 1 in 5 Americans support breaking up the United States into two countries based on political beliefs.

Republicans were more in favor of a national divorce, with 25% of GOP voters wanting to separate, according to the poll of 1,018 American adults. Meanwhile, 20% of independents and 16% of Democrats embrace the national divorce idea.

Men, individuals making $50,000 or less per year, and those living in the South and West were more likely to support a national divorce.

Only 16% of Americans support their state seceding from the U.S. to form or join a new country. There were 47% of poll takers who said they would move out of their state if there was an effort to secede.

There were 64% of Americans who said there is more that divides us than unites us. There were 61% who blamed "political and social elites" for the nation's polarization, and only 15% who faulted "how ordinary Americans think and behave."

The survey found that 57% of respondents were not confident at all that Americans would reconcile our difference in the next five years.

The poll revealed that 54% of Americans were not optimistic about the state of our country's democracy.

Cliff Young, president of Ipsos U.S. Public Affairs, told Axios, "Americans’ deep political fault lines are clear and engrained in our psyche and politics. Talk of national divorce or secession leaves us with a divided nation with little hope of reconciliation."

Last month, Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia caused a stir when she declared that the United States needed a national divorce.

"We need a national divorce. We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government. Everyone I talk to says this. From the sick and disgusting woke culture issues shoved down our throats to the Democrat’s traitorous America Last policies, we are done," Greene proclaimed.

A poll taken in June 2022 found that 44% of Americans believe the "U.S. seems headed toward a civil war in the near future," including 53% of Republicans and 39% of Democrats.

Another survey from July 2021 revealed that two-thirds of Republicans in the South and nearly half of Democrats on the West Coast want to secede from the union and form new nations composed of regional states.

A February 2021 poll said that nearly a third of Americans want to break up the United States and create smaller, like-minded countries.

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Poll: 28% of Americans believe they'll need to take up arms against the government, 68% of rural voters say the government is 'corrupt and rigged against everyday people like me'



More than a quarter of Americans believe they'll need to take up arms against the U.S. government, according to a new poll.

A poll from the University of Chicago’s Institute of Politics found that 28% of U.S. voters – including 37% who own guns – believe "it may be necessary at some point soon for citizens to take up arms against the government."

Along party lines, 45% of voters identified as "strong Republicans" said it may be necessary to take up arms against the government. Meanwhile, 21% of strong Democrats and 35% of independent voters believe they may need to take up arms against the government.

The survey of 1,000 U.S. voters discovered that a majority of Americans feel as though the government is "corrupt and rigged against everyday people like me" – including 73% of voters who describe themselves as a “strong Republican" and 68% of rural voters.

There were 69% of strong Republicans who said "more and more feel like a stranger in my own country," while 38% of Democrats agreed.

Regarding election integrity, only 33% of Republicans "generally trust elections to be conducted fairly and counted accurately," compared to 51% of independents and 78% of Democrats.

There is one thing Republicans and Democrats agree on: both political party members loathe each other.

According to the poll, 73% of Republicans say that "Democrats are generally bullies who want to impose their political beliefs on those who disagree." At nearly the same percentage (74%), Democrats view Republicans as bullies who want to impose their political beliefs on others.

There were 49% of poll participants who "avoided political discussions with others because I don’t know where they stand." Politics has caused a quarter of Americans to lose friends and avoid friends or relatives for their political beliefs, according to the poll. There were 38% who "unfriended or stopped following someone on social media because of their political views." The survey found that 26% of people stopped doing business with a company or brand because of their politics.

"While we've documented for years the partisan polarization in the country, these poll results are perhaps the starkest evidence of the deep divisions in partisan attitudes rippling through the country," said Republican pollster Neil Newhouse – who helped conduct the poll.

Last month, a poll revealed that 44% of Americans believe the "U.S. seems headed toward a civil war in the near future," including 53% of Republicans and 39% of Democrats.

Last July, a survey regarding possible secession found that two-thirds of Republicans in the South and nearly half of Democrats on the West Coast want to secede from the union and form countries composed of regional states.

Why it’s the FAR LEFT’s job to SECEDE. Not ours.

Why it’s the FAR LEFT’s job to SECEDE. Not ours.

Two-thirds of Republicans in the South want to secede, nearly half of West Coast Dems ready to break away from union



An alarming poll was released this week that highlights the concerning and growing divide in the United States. Two-thirds of Republicans in the South and nearly half of Democrats on the West Coast want to secede from the union, according to a new poll.

Bright Line Watch, a self-described "initiative to monitor democratic practices in the U.S. and call attention to threats to American democracy," and YouGov conducted a survey of 2,650 American adults between June 26 and July 2, 2021. For the poll, participants were presented with a hypothetical separation of the United States into five regional unions. Respondents were asked, "Would you support or oppose [your state] seceding from the United States to join a new union with [list of states in new union]?"

The region and political affiliation most welcoming seceding from the United States were Republicans from the South, where 66% said they would want to break off into a new country. Half of the independent voters were also ready to form a new country, which would include 13 Southern states: Texas, Florida, Virginia, Tennesee, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Kentucky.

The poll found that 47% of Democrats in the Pacific region, which includes California, Washington, Oregon, Hawaii, and Alaska, were ready to break away from the union.

The survey said 43% of independents were ready to secede in the Heartland region: Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, and Nebraska.

In the Mountain region, which includes Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico, there were 43% of Republicans and 35% of independents who wanted to secede from the United States.

In the Northeast region, 39% of Democrats, 33% of independents, and 26% of Republicans were ready to break away from the union. The region includes Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, and the District of Columbia.

Despite President Joe Biden vowing that he would bring unity to the country, Americans are considering division more than when he was first elected. Bright Line Watch asked the same question to Americans between Jan. 28 and Feb. 8, 2021. In the six months since the last survey, support for secession "rose in every region and among nearly every partisan group." In the previous poll, there were 50% of Republicans in the South who wanted to secede compared to 66% now.

"Support among Republicans in the Mountain region increased as well, by 7 points, from 36% to 43%," Bright Line Watch wrote. "Among Democrats in the West, a near-majority of 47% (up 6 points) supports a schism, as do 39% (up 5 points) in Northeast. Support jumped 9 points among independents in the Heartland as well, reaching 43%."

"The broad and increasing willingness of respondents to embrace these alternatives is a cause for concern," the outlet wrote.

Most disturbing datapoint I've seen in awhile: two-thirds of Southern Republicans now say the South should break aw… https://t.co/8nlNnR8SEy

— Christopher Ingraham (@_cingraham) 1626281414.0


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Nearly a third of Americans want to break up the United States into like-minded countries: Poll



The divide between Americans seems to be widening in recent years, and the political schism doesn't appear to be narrowing any time soon. The major partisan divide in the country has gotten to the point that many Americans have contemplated a national divorce because they believe there are far too many ideological differences to bridge the line of demarcation.

An eye-opening poll found that a shocking percentage of Americans are in favor of the dissolution of the United States. According to a new Bright Line Watch survey, nearly a third of Americans want to break up the United States and create smaller, like-minded countries.

Between Jan. 28 and Feb. 8, the 2,700 poll participants were asked:

Some people say the divisions within our country have grown so deep that we would be better off dividing into more like-minded regions that would govern themselves separately. Do you support or oppose the idea of the United States dividing into more than one nation?

The survey found that 29% (10% strongly, 19% somewhat) of Americans were in favor of the dissolution of the United States into like-minded regions. There were noticeable differences based on political party lines and geography. Surprisingly, 37% of independents were most inclined for the country to go its separate ways. There were 35% of Republicans who wanted to secede, followed by 21% of Democrats who wanted their own country of like-minded individuals.

Bright Line Watch proposed to divide the U.S. into five regional unions based on geography and political affiliation:

  • Pacific: California, Washington, Oregon, Hawaii, and Alaska
  • Mountain: Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico
  • South: Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Kentucky, and Tennessee
  • Heartland: Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, and Nebraska
  • Northeast: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, and the District of Columbia

When respondents were asked how likely they would be to support joining these hypothetical regional unions, 33% of the South and the Pacific said they would. There were 50% of Republicans in the red South region who were ready to create their own nation, and there were 41% of Democrats in the blue Pacific union who wanted to separate from the rest of the country.

New report on faith in American democracy and elections from @BrightLineWatch29% of respondents say they'd suppor… https://t.co/FGj0OVatRy
— G. Elliott Morris (@G. Elliott Morris)1613660013.0

The temptation of separation might have been heightened in recent years by social media that breeds tribalism and echo chambers, while devaluing any sense of nuance. Another agitator could be the click-thirsty media that creates hyperbolic headlines that are at times antagonistic in an effort to grab eyeballs in the bustling and oversaturated social media ecosystem.

The sense of Republican and Democratic lawmakers seemingly unwilling to reach across the aisle could also spread divisiveness. The American populace regularly engages in disputes over reality, facts, science, and election results, which may galvanize calls for a divided states of America. All of these factors could fuel a lack of unity, an atmosphere where citizens distrust each other and harbor resentment of each other.

There have been fruitless secession movements in recent years in several states, including California, South Carolina, and Texas.

A 2017 Pew Research Center report revealed the widening divide between Republicans and Democrats. The study examined the partisan divide on political values between 1994 and 2017. The research discovered that the fractionalization between the two political parties has never been worse.

The partisan gap and disagreements regarding the topics of government aid to needy, racial discrimination, immigration, and diplomacy through strength have become farther apart since 1994, according to the study.

Who's responsible for the widening partisan divide?PEW did the research.Here's the result.Anyone surprised? https://t.co/C1uJcEWt8q
— PragerU (@PragerU)1610584407.0

Glenn Beck: "I'm All For the LEFT's Secession"www.youtube.com

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The far-left should secede from America and here’s why

The far-left should secede from America and here’s why

Here's How Texas Could Vote to Secede | The Glenn Beck Program

Here's How Texas Could Vote to Secede | The Glenn Beck Program