Democratic lawmaker proposes northern states join Canada because she can't handle Trump win



Following in the footsteps of 19th century Democratic secessionists, New York state Sen. Liz Krueger (D) has raised the possibility of blue states breaking away from the Union for ideological reasons.

Krueger, a Manhattan pro-abortion activist who runs New York's Senate Finance Committee, recently told Politico, "It is not unreasonable to think outside of the box."

Krueger, like other New York radicals, is concerned that the incoming Trump administration will make good on its campaign promises, including the successful enforcement of American immigration law in her state — deporting criminal noncitizens and alleviating the strain they have placed on taxpayer-funded citizen resources.

In September, Krueger told City & State New York that were Trump to win the election, she "would suggest to Canada that instead of us all trying to illegally cross the border at night without them noticing, which is pretty hard because there's a lot of us, that they should instead agree to let us be the southeast province, a new province of Canada."

"I offered, even though I hadn't gotten agreement from other states yet, that I thought New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont, would combine and be a great new province as the southeast province of Canada," said Krueger. "Basically everybody in these states are progressive Democrats."

'We would fit in pretty well.'

Apparently, the Democrat who swore an oath to "support the Constitution of the United States" would be more than happy to trade the U.S. Constitution for Canada's highly flexible Charter of Rights and Freedoms and sell out millions of proud Americans.

Trump secured 44.1% (3,484,124) of the votes in New York; 41.9% (739,317) of the votes in Connecticut; 36.5% (1,234,961) of the votes in Massachusetts; and 32.6% (119,393) of the votes in Vermont.

"We would fit in pretty well with the political philosophy of at least most of the Canadian elected officials," said Krueger.

The Democratic lawmaker is apparently unaware that Pierre Poilievre, the populist leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, is poised to crush Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party and the socialist New Democrat Party in the upcoming election. The Conservative Party has outperformed both of the Canadian leftist parties combined in recent polls.

"I propose that this could be an option, and I got back some unofficial responses and heard this is probably sellable in Ottawa," added Krueger.

If the northern incorporation doesn't fly, then the Democratic lawmaker apparently has another unworkable alternative: withhold over $300 billion in federal taxes in order to hamstring the Trump administration.

Even Politico admitting that it's unclear how Krueger's tax-withholding plan might be accomplished, especially when a reactive cut in federal aid would greatly handicap New York.

The Office of the New York State Comptroller indicated in April that in recent years, New York has repeatedly received more from Washington, D.C., than it has paid in federal taxes. In fiscal year 2022, for instance, the state generated $361.8 billion in federal taxes and benefited from $383 billion in federal spending.

When it comes to secession and withholding taxes, Krueger is once again betting on losers.

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Rural counties across the US are trying to secede from Dem-compromised blue states



Taken for granted by big-city leftists and tired of ruinous Democratic policies they haven't the numbers to change, conservative counties across the U.S. are looking to join red states or form their own.

In Oregon, over a dozen rural red counties have voted in support of moving the state border westward and joining their conservative compatriots in Idaho — a red state where Citizens for Greater Idaho president Mike McCarter noted the legislature "is controlled by representatives from rural districts, who govern according to the concerns and priorities of rural counties."

"There is a way to get better governance for central and eastern Oregon," said Carter. "The current location of the Oregon/Idaho border was decided 165 years ago and is now outdated because it doesn't match the location of the dividing line between the counties that prefer Idaho's style of governance and counties that prefer Oregon's style of governance."

On the other side of the country, 33 Illinois counties have signaled support for forming a new state, New Illinois, in a manner similar to how West Virginia split from Virginia in 1863. According to the nonpartisan nonprofit New Illinois,

The goal of New Illinois is to see a new state established that truly represents its rural, small town and suburban citizens — a state free from the stranglehold of corruption in Illinois government, which grants disproportionate representation to certain cronies, groups such as public sector unions, and urban areas — in particular, Chicago and Cook County.

Phil Gioja of Watseka, Illinois, recently told the Wall Street Journal that he was among the 72.85% of voters in Iroquois County who voted "yes" in answer to the question, "Shall the board of Iroquois County correspond with the boards of other counties of Illinois, outside of Cook County, about the possibility of separating from Cook County to form a new state and to seek admission to the Union as such, subject to the approval of the people?"

'For the betterment of mankind, you need to pursue it.'

"There's a lot of people in Chicago, and I think that they make a lot of decisions that affect people downstate," said Gioja. Chicago is home to over 40% of Illinois' population. "It's just sending a message that, 'Hey, you know, there's people that would like to be part of the conversation, and often aren’t.'"

The Illinois separation referendum won in seven counties where it was on the ballot Nov. 5. That means that roughly one-third of the state now supports ditching Chicago.

In 2013, voters in 11 Colorado counties were asked whether they wanted to break away and form their own state, "North Colorado." Majorities in Phillips, Kit Carson, Yuma, Cheyenne, and Washington County voted in favor of secession. Exasperated residents in Weld County, Colorado, tried a different angle in 2021, pushing to become part of Wyoming. Colorado has yet to lose ground.

Six Republican state legislators in Maryland representing the Trump-supporting counties Garret, Allegany, and Washington reportedly asked West Virginia in 2021 to consider a merger. Legal historian Cynthia Nicoletti of the University of Virginia School of Law told the New York Times, "I find it hard to imagine that the Maryland legislature would vote to allow them to leave and thus consent to divide the state."

There have been hundreds of similar attempts to break up California, many in hopes of liberating rural counties from the control of the populous Democratic enclaves on the coast.

Dozens of northern Californian counties that voted for Trump in the past three elections are among those that have long contemplated forming the "State of Jefferson." Former Republican state Assemblyman Bill Maze alternatively sought an east-west divorce, cutting the 13 coastal counties off from the remaining 45 counties.

Paul Preston, founder of New California State, issued a proclamation earlier this year that he and others were still keen on creating a new state — not to be confused with Jeff Burum's "Empire" state, which would alternatively consist only of San Bernardino County.

'They have seceded from the Union already.'

San Bernardino County has signaled resistance to Sacramento in other ways in recent years, such as its lawsuit to stop Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom's draconian lockdown policies during the pandemic. It is also home to efforts to bolster parental rights as well as resistance to Democrat-supported LGBT propaganda in the classroom.

Burum, a real estate developer from Rancho Cucamonga, recently told CalMatters, "If you can see a path to get there, then for the betterment of mankind, you need to pursue it."

Article IV, section III of the U.S. Constitution states

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

Preston apparently thinks that West Virginia paved the way to get around the requirement that the California Legislature sign off on his new state. West Virginia's breakaway was approved without the consent of Virginia's legislature, since the rebel state had voted to secede in 1861.

Preston told the Journal that he will petition Congress for statehood, arguing that California's Democratic government is "a one-party communist state, and technically, they have seceded from the Union already."

Jason Mazzone, a constitutional law professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, said, "It seems far-fetched. But we live in uncertain times. So if you've got the right people in Congress — and I don't think we do have the right people in Congress — you could do it."

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13th Oregon county secures approval to ditch Democrat-compromised state to join Idaho



The "Greater Idaho" movement continues to gain steam, promising to liberate conservative counties east of the Deschutes River from the ruinous policies and Democratic control all but ensured by residents in the more populous leftist areas nearer the coast, such as Mayor Ted Wheeler's crime-ravaged Portland.

On Tuesday, Crook County voters were presented with ballot measure 7-86, which asked: "Should Crook County represent that its citizens support efforts to move the Idaho state border to include Crook County?"

The majority signaled their support for moving the state border westward and joining their conservative compatriots in the Gem State.

The arguments

Those opposed to the measure unsuccessfully argued against 7-86 in the State Voters' Pamphlet that joining Idaho was problematic because:

  • Idaho, unlike Oregon, is pro-life;
  • Idaho, unlike Oregon, has a sales tax and a lower minimum wage;
  • Idaho is not as fast and loose when it comes to voter registration;
  • "Idaho does not allow Video Poker Machines in retail establishments";
  • Moving the border might undercut Oregon's recreational drug sales;
  • "Idaho has no state sponsored healthcare plan for low-income residents"; and
  • Newly minted Idaho residents will have to pay "out of state fees" for hunting, fishing, and camping activities on the Oregon coast.

A loss of voters might also mean Oregon could lose representatives in Congress.

Citizens for Greater Idaho president Mike McCarter, a firearms instructor from the town of LaPine, alternatively argued, "There is a way to get better governance for central and eastern Oregon. The current location of the Oregon/Idaho border was decided 165 years ago and is now outdated because it doesn't match the location of the dividing line between the counties that prefer Idaho's style of governance and counties that prefer Oregon's style of governance."

McCarter further noted the residents of Crook County would receive better representation in Idaho, where the state legislature "is controlled by representatives from rural districts, who govern according to the concerns and priorities of rural counties."

McCarter, whose organization has elsewhere suggested that "only 25% of Oregonians who are registered to vote are registered Republican," stressed that the alternative would be to continue living under the thumb of Oregon politicians who "don't understand how we make a living. Their decisions damage industries like timber, mining, trucking, ranching and farming."

'When you go to seek redress and your government doesn't listen to you, where do you turn?'

Idaho state Rep. Barbara Ehardt (R) recently told CNN, "Constitutionally, people should have the opportunity to seek redress from their government."

"When you go to seek redress and your government doesn't listen to you, where do you turn?" she continued. "These people were seeking redress from the next best thing, which would be us."

Greater Idaho executive director Matt McCaw similarly suggested in the voters pamphlet, "The right to choose our own government is a foundational principle of the United States. It's why we hold votes for government office, redistrict every ten years, and have an initiative system that allows voters to refer issues directly to the ballot. The goal of all of these systems is to get government that people actually want and that matches their values."

"East-side Oregonians have little voice in their own state government, even less political power, and get a steady barrage of policies forced on us that we don't want and don't reflect our community or values," added McCaw.

Evidently, 53.44% of Crook County voters cared more about regaining a political say over their fates than abortion rights, automatic voter registration, sales tax, and slot machines, saying "yes" to ballot measure 7-86. The votes will not be certified until June.

The response

"The voters of eastern Oregon have spoken loudly and clearly about their desire to see border talks move forward," McCaw said in a statement. "We call on the governor, speaker of the House, and Senate president to sit down with us and discuss next steps towards changing governance for eastern Oregonians, as well as for the legislature to begin holding hearings on what a potential border change will look like."

"What they're telling us through these votes is that they want their leaders to move the border. In our system, the people are the ones in charge, and it's time for the leaders representing them to follow through," said McCarter.

Greater Idaho suggested that the "yes" vote would likely have been more substantial were it not for the opposition campaign bankrolled by Portland groups.

Idaho Gov. Brad Little indicated in 2020 — as the first of the eastern Oregon counties began to vote in favor of leaving Oregon to its troubles — that he liked the idea of a "Greater Idaho."

Little told "Fox & Friends" that he understood "what takes place in the Portland area has a big impact on those rural parts of Oregon, and I understand they're looking at Idaho fondly because of our regulatory atmosphere, our values. That doesn't surprise me one bit."

Little noted, however, there would be various legal "hurdles" prospective western Idahoans would have to clear first. The U.S. Congress and both the Oregon and Idaho state legislatures would have to approve the border shift.

KOIN-TV noted that the Idaho legislature passed a measure last year to begin conversations with Oregon lawmakers about the initiative.

Ahead of the talks, Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) quipped, "I would entertain a trade for Boise and Sun Valley."

Extra to Crook County, the following counties have reportedly passed measures in favor of joining Idaho: Sherman; Morrow; Union; Wallowa; Jefferson; Wheeler; Grant; Baker; Malheur; Harney; Lake; and Klamath.

While there has long been an interest in moving the border, Democrat-championed COVID restrictions reportedly helped provide the movement with the traction it needed to get where it is today.

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1 in 5 Americans support a national divorce, majority not optimistic about the country's democracy



Approximately 20% of U.S. citizens – which would represent roughly 66 million people — support the idea of a national divorce, according to a new poll.

A "Two Americas" survey by Ipsos found that 1 in 5 Americans support breaking up the United States into two countries based on political beliefs.

Republicans were more in favor of a national divorce, with 25% of GOP voters wanting to separate, according to the poll of 1,018 American adults. Meanwhile, 20% of independents and 16% of Democrats embrace the national divorce idea.

Men, individuals making $50,000 or less per year, and those living in the South and West were more likely to support a national divorce.

Only 16% of Americans support their state seceding from the U.S. to form or join a new country. There were 47% of poll takers who said they would move out of their state if there was an effort to secede.

There were 64% of Americans who said there is more that divides us than unites us. There were 61% who blamed "political and social elites" for the nation's polarization, and only 15% who faulted "how ordinary Americans think and behave."

The survey found that 57% of respondents were not confident at all that Americans would reconcile our difference in the next five years.

The poll revealed that 54% of Americans were not optimistic about the state of our country's democracy.

Cliff Young, president of Ipsos U.S. Public Affairs, told Axios, "Americans’ deep political fault lines are clear and engrained in our psyche and politics. Talk of national divorce or secession leaves us with a divided nation with little hope of reconciliation."

Last month, Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia caused a stir when she declared that the United States needed a national divorce.

"We need a national divorce. We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government. Everyone I talk to says this. From the sick and disgusting woke culture issues shoved down our throats to the Democrat’s traitorous America Last policies, we are done," Greene proclaimed.

A poll taken in June 2022 found that 44% of Americans believe the "U.S. seems headed toward a civil war in the near future," including 53% of Republicans and 39% of Democrats.

Another survey from July 2021 revealed that two-thirds of Republicans in the South and nearly half of Democrats on the West Coast want to secede from the union and form new nations composed of regional states.

A February 2021 poll said that nearly a third of Americans want to break up the United States and create smaller, like-minded countries.

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California County agrees to add ballot measure considering secession from liberal state: 'Up to and including secession'



Voters from one of California's most populous counties will have the opportunity this November to vote on whether their county should consider seceding from California.

What are the details?

The San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors voted 4-0 on Wednesday to include the secession measure on the November ballot, the Associated Press reported.

Importantly, the measure does not directly ask voters whether San Bernardino County should secede from California, but whether county officials should consider secession as a means for the county to obtain what officials believe are the state and federal resources it deserves.

The ballot measure reads:

Do the citizens of San Bernardino County want the San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors to study all options to obtain its fair share of state and federal resources, up to and including secession?

San Bernardino County is the largest county by land size in the contiguous United States at more than 20,000 square miles, making it larger than Connecticut, Delaware, New Jersey, and Rhode Island — combined.

Despite its large size and population of nearly 2.2 million people — making it California's fifth-most populous county — San Bernardino County spokesman David Wert disclosed that a recent study showed that, in terms of per-capita revenue received from the state and federal governments, San Bernardino County ranks 36th out of 56.

That means counties with fewer than 200,000 people receive more state and federal dollars than San Bernardino County.

The vote, then, is really about increasing pressure on officials to ensure that San Bernardino receives its "fair share" of the pie.

"It's a question we're going to put to our residents. Do they want to include all options to go after, fight for their fair share of taxpayer dollars?" Supervisor Curt Hagman said.

"I do think we have to look at anything we can do to enhance services for our residents," Supervisor Joe Baca Jr. agreed. "I’m not in favor of seceding. I’m proud to be from California. I love California."

Would it join another state?

At the board meeting, Supervisor Dawn Rowe suggested San Bernardino County could join Arizona or Nevada, noting the expenses associated with maintaining an entire state.

Poll: 28% of Americans believe they'll need to take up arms against the government, 68% of rural voters say the government is 'corrupt and rigged against everyday people like me'



More than a quarter of Americans believe they'll need to take up arms against the U.S. government, according to a new poll.

A poll from the University of Chicago’s Institute of Politics found that 28% of U.S. voters – including 37% who own guns – believe "it may be necessary at some point soon for citizens to take up arms against the government."

Along party lines, 45% of voters identified as "strong Republicans" said it may be necessary to take up arms against the government. Meanwhile, 21% of strong Democrats and 35% of independent voters believe they may need to take up arms against the government.

The survey of 1,000 U.S. voters discovered that a majority of Americans feel as though the government is "corrupt and rigged against everyday people like me" – including 73% of voters who describe themselves as a “strong Republican" and 68% of rural voters.

There were 69% of strong Republicans who said "more and more feel like a stranger in my own country," while 38% of Democrats agreed.

Regarding election integrity, only 33% of Republicans "generally trust elections to be conducted fairly and counted accurately," compared to 51% of independents and 78% of Democrats.

There is one thing Republicans and Democrats agree on: both political party members loathe each other.

According to the poll, 73% of Republicans say that "Democrats are generally bullies who want to impose their political beliefs on those who disagree." At nearly the same percentage (74%), Democrats view Republicans as bullies who want to impose their political beliefs on others.

There were 49% of poll participants who "avoided political discussions with others because I don’t know where they stand." Politics has caused a quarter of Americans to lose friends and avoid friends or relatives for their political beliefs, according to the poll. There were 38% who "unfriended or stopped following someone on social media because of their political views." The survey found that 26% of people stopped doing business with a company or brand because of their politics.

"While we've documented for years the partisan polarization in the country, these poll results are perhaps the starkest evidence of the deep divisions in partisan attitudes rippling through the country," said Republican pollster Neil Newhouse – who helped conduct the poll.

Last month, a poll revealed that 44% of Americans believe the "U.S. seems headed toward a civil war in the near future," including 53% of Republicans and 39% of Democrats.

Last July, a survey regarding possible secession found that two-thirds of Republicans in the South and nearly half of Democrats on the West Coast want to secede from the union and form countries composed of regional states.

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