While the aftermath of Hurricane Helene is still dominating the news cycle, Al Robertson and Zach Dasher got a front-row seat to the devastation — and are still dealing with it.

Robertson and his family were trapped in the Black Mountain region of North Carolina, while Dasher and his family were trapped in the Asheville area.

“Thanks to Elon Musk, we’ve got Starlink. Bunch of Starlinks got sent in. So I got Starlink on the top of the building, and then I’ve got a 6,000-watt generator full of gas outside and about eight extension cords to make all this happen,” Dasher tells the Robertson family on “Unashamed.”

“Did you ever think we’d be in our culture, where you open the podcast by thanking Elon Musk?” Jase Robertson jokes. “We laugh and we joke, but this has been a tremendous sobering moment for our history. A lot of people have lost their lives, and a lot of stories are just horrific.”

Dasher can attest to the horrific nature of the stories.

“I don’t know what the total count is; I mean, they’re still pulling bodies out now. Some of these people’s bodies will never be recovered, because they’re under 20 feet of mud, and these mudslides, and this river. Just, I mean, it’s horrific,” he tells the Robertsons.

While there are too many horror stories to count, there are also plenty of stories of hope as well.

“I’ll tell you this, though, to see God’s people swarm in has been humbling. That part has been beautiful. You know, in the midst of all the storm, to see God’s people come into this area in a way that I never knew was possible,” Dasher says.

However, while Dasher was overwhelmed with appreciation for good people who came out to help, he couldn’t help but notice that there wasn’t much government aid.

“What’s happening in our culture right now is that we’re being slowly duped into believing that the government systems and programs are going to take care of us, but in a catastrophe like this, you see the incompetency of it,” Dasher explains.

“And you think, ‘Well, it's not possible for someone trained at the London School of Economics that sits in an ivory tower in Washington, D.C., to know how to fix something in Swannanoa, North Carolina,’” he adds.

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‘A war zone’: The Robertsons get trapped by Hurricane Helene, and it’s way worse than you know

Americans throughout the Southeast have been stranded by Hurricane Helene without power, water, or cell service — and many have lost their homes and even lives. The devastation is unimaginable, and the Robertson family has witnessed it all firsthand.

Al and Lisa Robertson were staying in Black Mountain, which he explains was hit with 20-plus inches of rain in two days — before Hurricane Helene reached them.

“There was just the perfect storm, and I say that in a negative way,” Al says. “This one had some bite to it.”

“First you’re just praying, you know, spare us, and then you start praying about the people down lower ‘cause you think of down the mountain, this isn’t going to be good. Lisa and I were staying at a little house, kind of pretty much close to the top. I’m praying because I was worried about a mudslide,” he continues.

When the morning came around, Al recalls that “it was like a war zone.” And after trying to get out of the mountains, they realized they were landlocked.

“We make it about half a mile on I-40 and mudslide,” he explains. “Trees on the road, all this stuff, can’t go this way. So then we’re trying to find is there another way around? Nope. Everything over there’s shut down.”

“So then you start thinking, what if we go south? Nope. Closed. There’s a river across the interstate,” he continues. “So we take off north, planning to get high enough up, maybe above the worst damage to cut across and then go east. We get to Tennessee, we’ve been driving a couple hours, and the interstate is collapsed.”

“We’re trapped, we cannot leave,” he adds. “We have no phones, we have no electricity at this point, we don’t even have a place to stay, but we do have family. And I’m thinking, I mean, there’s a helplessness that comes over you at that moment, because I got half a tank of gas and there’s no gas stations.”

As other people from out of town were waiting for places to open up, Al recalls realizing that those in electric cars were “doomed.”

“There’s no electricity for you to power your vehicle with,” he explains.

However, Al and Lisa did see signs of hope in the “rednecks” who were prepared and used that to help others.

“They helped other people. They would go to their neighbors' [houses], and we saw a whole truckload of people just going from place to place, helping,” Lisa says.

Tragically, there are still around a thousand people missing and over a hundred people have been confirmed dead.

“It’s going to wind up being devastating numbers for sure,” Al says, sadly.

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Jase Robertson shares the film he says 'needs to be watched by society'

“Very seldom do I recommend things to watch,” says Jase Robertson, who isn’t much of a media guy.

However, last weekend, Jase’s wife happened to bring up Matt Walsh’s 2022 documentary “What Is a Woman?”

Jase was shocked to discover that a film with such a title existed, and so, intrigued, he watched it.

His conclusion is that “What Is a Woman?” “needs to be watched by society.”

“All this guy did, to his credit, was simply ask a question,” he says, pointing to the “global controversy” that gender has become.

“When [Walsh] asked that question,” says Jase, he discovered that “the belief has become popular among those who attack the gender God-defined roles that it's impossible for them to answer.”

Jase shares his bewilderment that the socially acceptable answer when it comes to someone’s gender is basically “let the kid decide what they want to be.”

“They'll say your gender is whatever you want to be, including any kind of animal. I mean you can be a cat, you know, you can be a wolf,” he says.

“That’s nonsense,” is all Phil Robertson has to say about it.

To hear more of the conversation, watch the episode above.

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Jase Robertson discovers something on Google that makes him concerned for Christians

On an episode of “Unashamed,” Jase Robertson dove into the convoluted subject of anger. The Bible has no shortage of verses regarding the emotion that makes our blood boil and our fists clench. But it can be challenging to tease out exactly how Christians are to respond to that specific feeling.

Take the following verses from Ephesians 4 as an example.

Ephesians 4:26 : "Be angry and do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger."

Ephesians 4:31: "Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice."

It’s easy to see how some might walk away confused about how they are to handle their own anger.

But Jase Robertson has a question for you: “Are you angry about the things that God is angry about?”

“There's just some things that are so bad that happen to other humans that make us angry, and that's okay, but the only thing we can do is leave room for God's wrath. We got to move on and live a life of love in Christ Jesus,” he says.

And when it comes to the subject of God’s wrath, Jase says that’s where many Christians get it very, very wrong.

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“About 80% of the text in the entire scripture that uses the word anger or angry are a reference to God … when somebody's angry it's usually God in the Bible,” says Al.

“Two-thirds of Jesus' parables, when he got to the end, he was either talking about the resurrection or standing before God or judgment or hell,” Jase echoes, adding that “some people read Ephesians, and they start serving an angry God.”

These misguided people proclaim falsities like “God doesn’t love everybody,” he says, adding the notion is far more “controversial” than he ever imagined.

“I Googled it,” he admits. “Out of the top 30 searches … 28 of them” said something to the effect of “‘God didn't love everybody,’ which I found troubling.”

Jase says that his Google search results reveal something profoundly concerning: A huge percentage of Christians sincerely believe that “God doesn’t love everybody” or that “He loves some people more than others.”

“I disagree with that profoundly,” says Jase.

To hear the Robertsons’ take on righteous anger, God’s wrath, as well as His love, watch the episode above.

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How Jase Robertson brought his own ATTACKER to the Lord

When Jase Anderson was a young buck, he once ran into a little bit of trouble.

When he befriended a girl who had a boyfriend, he thought they were just friends — but she thought differently. Then, the boyfriend caught wind of it.

“She asked me to come over for the Bible study, and next thing you know, I’m dragged and whooped over basically my faith because I was there for a Bible study,” Jase explains, adding, “But the good news is he came to the Lord a couple weeks later. The girl, she got alienated, and we went on about our merry way.”

“I was at the wrong place at the wrong time, but I was there at the right time to bring him to the Lord,” he says.

“You took a beating for the gospel,” Zach laughs.

“I did not fight back. Only in words and in the Spirit,” Jase says while Zach continues poking fun.

“You didn’t give him the right hand of fellowship,” Zach jokes.

“I decided to preach the Gospel to him, thinking that would avoid the beating, but that didn’t materialize. But it did work out. It was a weird phenomenon that happened in my life,” Jase says.

Now, the two are friends — and his former attacker has even helped him out with his ministry.

“We’re friends; we’re brothers,” Jase says.

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Jase has a ‘stop the chariot’ moment with the Smallbones & encouraging Christian artists

There was a point in Christian history when the church was the epicenter of art, but that has unfortunately changed.

However, there is a glimmer of hope — and Jase Robertson sees it in films like “Unsung Hero,” which is based on a true story about the Smallbones family.

“Every once in awhile, you meet people who you just can’t help but see that they love Jesus and they want to get him out in the world,” Jase says, adding, “and since we’re kind of traveling in that same circle, I just want to support and help what they’re doing.”

Alan is in agreement, telling Phil, Zach, and Jase, “We’ve turned the corner on filmmaking for faith films and telling great stories.”

“I think that movies like this, where Jesus loving people make a movie in our culture, and everything we do see around in our world sometimes is really bad, I think these are the times where the Church of Jesus should stop the chariot and go support this movie,” Jase adds.

Zach has noticed that while the church is no longer the epicenter of art, there is a movement toward gaining back that ground that is growing.

“I love the fact that the church in the last 20 years has been like, ‘Wait a second, we need to be involved in the arts. We need to be involved in philosophy. We need to be involved in culture at every level if we’re truly kingdom people.’ So, I love it," he says.

“And let’s face it,” he continues, “we are shaped by the stories that we entertain ourselves with; we are shaped by the music that we listen to; we are shaped by the books that we read; and so, we need to be in these spaces telling a better story, a bigger story that really transcends this cultural moment and moves people closer to who God is.”

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