Left-leaning fact-checker finally admits Trump never called neo-Nazis 'very fine people' after 7 years, falsehood spread by Biden



It only took nearly seven years, but left-leaning fact-checking website Snopes finally admitted that former President Donald Trump never called neo-Nazis or white supremacists in Charlottesville "very fine people." The falsehood has regularly been spread by President Joe Biden.

The media-driven controversy stemmed from the so-called "Unite the Right" rally held in August 2017 in Charlottesville, Virginia. The demonstration was attended by various groups across the political spectrum, including neo-Nazis, white supremacists, individuals protesting the removal of a Confederate statue, and progressives holding a counter-protest.

The demonstration turned violent when James Fields Jr. deliberately rammed his car into a group of counter-protesters. Civil rights activist Heather Heyer was killed in the car attack and more than 30 others were injured. He was sentenced to life in prison on federal hate crime charges.

Days after the deadly attack, then-President Trump held a press conference and was asked by a reporter about the neo-Nazis at the rally and said:

Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

Despite the availability of Trump's quote made on Aug. 15, 2017, Snopes waited nearly seven years to challenge the media narrative that the former president called the neo-Nazis "very fine people."

On Thursday, Snopes published a fact-check article titled: "No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People.'"

The left-leaning fact-checker noted:

In a news conference after the rally protesting the planned removal of a Confederate statue, Trump did say there were "very fine people on both sides," referring to the protesters and the counter-protesters. He said in the same statement he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he said should be "condemned totally."

Snopes was inundated with complaints about the fact-check by its liberal readership, to which it released an editor's note the next day:

Editors' Note: Some readers have raised the objection that this fact check appears to assume Trump was correct in stating that there were "very fine people on both sides" of the Charlottesville incident. That is not the case. This fact check aimed to confirm what Trump actually said, not whether what he said was true or false. For the record, virtually every source that covered the Unite the Right debacle concluded that it was conceived of, led by and attended by white supremacists, and that therefore Trump was wrong.

Since Trump's "very fine people" remark, numerous Democrats have pounced on his comments by misconstruing his words. Biden has regularly spread the partial, misleading "very fine people" hoax in an attempt to hurt Trump politically. Snopes noted that the misinformation "spread like wildfire" and was "a cornerstone" of Biden's 2020 campaign." You can see examples of Biden weaponizing Trump's quote here, here, here, and here.

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Chris Cuomo DESTROYED in debate over COVID failures



Not only is Chris Cuomo now openly questioning the narrative he helped spread during the pandemic — he’s talking to Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” about it.

And while he often isn’t right, at least he’s willing to talk about it.

In a recent episode of “The Chris Cuomo Project,” the pair sat down and debated the massive list of failures that occurred under the government and media’s watch not so long ago.

“I think the vaccine was not a vaccine, the vaccine did not work,” Rubin says to Cuomo, who then shoots back, “It works.”

“It’s why the hospitalizations came down,” Cuomo added.

“I know everyone says that, but I don’t think there’s really any evidence of that,” Rubin says. “I’m not vaxxed, they're not vaxxed, none of my crew is vaxxed.”

While Cuomo notes that Rubin and his crew aren’t the people that needed to be vaccinated, Rubin reminds him that everyone was being forced.

“That is going to be something that needs to be reviewed and scrutinized and, I believe, ultimately found to have been wrong,” Cuomo says, surprisingly.

However, he disagrees when Rubin shoots that “Fauci should be in jail” for what he’s done to the American people.

“For what?” Cuomo asks, shocked. “What’s the crime?”

“Just in the last few days he’s admitted that six-feet social distancing was largely made up. He completely admitted it,” Rubin explains. “He’s the head of the NIH.”

“The rule was from the CDC,” Cuomo argues, not budging.

“There was nothing backing it,” Rubin says, noting that wasn’t the only thing that had no backing. “There was no evidence that when you went to a restaurant, if you were sitting you could take your mask off, and COVID could only get the waiter who was standing and had to wear the mask.”

“Masks don’t work, at all.”


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Joe Biden invokes 'very fine people' hoax from Charlottesville riots in debate with President Trump



You knew he was going there — and sure enough, he did.

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden — with most of mainstream media squarely behind him — during Tuesday's debate with President Donald Trump invoked the tired, long-ago debunked hoax that Trump referred to neo-Nazis and white nationalists at the 2017 riots in Charlottesville, Virginia, as "very fine people."

What was said?

"Close your eyes, remember what those people looked like coming out of the fields, carrying torches, their veins bulging ... just spewing anti-Semitic bile and accompanied by the Ku Klux Klan — a young woman got killed — and they asked the president what he thought, he said there were very fine people on both sides," Biden remarked. "No president has said anything like that."

Trump appeared to urge Biden to "finish the statement, finish the statement" — presumably in reference to his complete remarks to the media when he specifically condemned neo-Nazis and white supremacists — but moderator Chris Wallace, who was demonstrably contentious with Trump all night, moved things along and didn't correct Biden.

But we will. Again.

Here's the in-context exchange between Trump and the media after Charlottesville as reported by Politifact (emphasis added):

Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn't put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."

Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down — excuse me, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?"

Reporter: "I do love Thomas Jefferson."

Trump: "Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue? So you know what, it's fine. You're changing history. You're changing culture. And you had people — and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally — but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."

Here's the clip from the debate and some reactions to it:

Tonight, “Moderator” Chris Wallace allowed Joe Biden to repeat the Charlottesville “Very Fine People” Lie unchallen… https://t.co/FgxToEdvkG
— Benny (@Benny)1601439392.0
An abject lie from Joe Biden, spreading the #FinePeopleHoax.Pres Trump never praised bigots. In fact, he explicit… https://t.co/9Gx1PD5ODz
— Steve Cortes (@Steve Cortes)1601431076.0
Ok, I don’t generally nitpick moderators, but Chris Wallace asking Joe Biden about the “very fine people” thing wit… https://t.co/uDKvHaKFCD
— Jesse Kelly (@Jesse Kelly)1601430941.0

Joe Biden Lies in Church, Brings 'Very Fine People' Hoax to Kenosha

Former Vice President Joe Biden told a small audience at the Grace Lutheran Church in Kenosha, Wisconsin, that President Donald Trump had called neo-Nazis "very fine people" -- repeating a false claim he has made since his campaign began.