DOJ releases full Ghislaine Maxwell transcripts — and they raise more questions than answers



The U.S. Department of Justice has released the entirety of the Ghislaine Maxwell transcripts, which reveal the conversations had between Pam Bondi’s Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche, and Maxwell — who has been convicted of trafficking underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein.

“After our outcry, the Department of Justice sat down with Ghislaine Maxwell. Kind of unbelievable that they hadn’t done that before, that no Department of Justice had ever asked Ghislaine Maxwell about Jeffrey Epstein specifically. Mind-blowing, actually,” BlazeTV host Liz Wheeler says on “The Liz Wheeler Show.”

And Wheeler believes there are some important takeaways from the transcripts.

“First of all, it’s important to understand that Ghislaine Maxwell is not a good person. She’s a criminal, and she’s the worst kind of criminal. She trafficked underage girls to a pedophile, and she’s serving time in prison for it, which she should be,” Wheeler says.


But it wasn’t just Maxwell’s answers that has Wheeler questioning whether they’re true.

“The more I read of these transcripts, the back-and-forth between Maxwell and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, it didn’t answer my questions,” she continues. “It raised more questions.”

“First of all, Ghislaine Maxwell does not think that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. So, on that, I suppose she agrees with the majority of the American people,” she explains.

“I do not believe he died by suicide, no,” Maxwell said in the interview.

Blanche went on to ask whether she believes he was murdered by someone on the outside of prison who wanted him dead or a disgruntled prisoner on the inside?

“Of course, it’s possible,” she continued. “But I don’t know of any reason why, and I don’t believe in the blackmail or in any of this. I don’t think Epstein had a hit on like that.”

Wheeler notes that throughout the transcript, it feels “like he’s leading her to her answers.”

“It feels to me like these are not open-ended questions, that these are him planting ideas,” she says.

And as Wheeler continues to go through the transcript, she continues to see Blanche planting ideas.

“So, what is the takeaway from this conversation? The takeaway from this portion of the conversation is, Todd Blanche is leading Ghislaine Maxwell to the conclusion. I don’t know what Todd Blanche believes. I don’t know Todd Blanche personally,” she says, adding, “but he’s clearly forming the conversation to get her to agree with him, not asking open-ended questions.”

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DOJ releases interview with Ghislaine Maxwell, reviving unanswered questions in Epstein scandal



The Department of Justice released several transcripts and audio recordings of Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche's interview with Ghislaine Maxwell, 63.

The senior Trump administration official met with Maxwell and her lawyer, David Oscar Markus, over two days in July at the federal prison in Tallahassee, Florida, where she was previously held while serving her 20-year sentence.

'Except for the names of victims, every word is included. Nothing removed. Nothing hidden.'

Maxwell, who was moved to a minimum-security federal prison in Bryan, Texas, earlier this month, was convicted in 2021 for trafficking minors for sex as Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirator and confidante.

Transcripts and audio recordings from their meeting revealed that Maxwell still does not believe that Epstein committed suicide in 2019. When asked to speculate about who might have killed him, she stated she did not know.

She claimed that Epstein did not have a client list, and she was unaware of him previously being accused of blackmailing or extorting anyone, suggesting that his death was unrelated.

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"In prison, where I am, they will kill you, or they will pay — somebody can pay a prisoner to kill you for $25 worth of commissary," Maxwell said. "That's about the going rate for a hit with a lock today."

Maxwell insisted that she never witnessed President Donald Trump and former President Bill Clinton do anything inappropriate. She rejected claims that Clinton traveled to Epstein's island.

She noted that she met Trump before Epstein and believed the two were "friendly like people are in social settings," but added, "I don't think they were close friends."

"President Trump was always very cordial and very kind to me. And I just want to say that I find — I admire his extraordinary achievement in becoming the president now. And I like him, and I've always liked him. So that is the sum and substance of my entire relationship with him," she said.

Maxwell also insisted that she did not introduce Epstein to Prince Andrew and called claims that Epstein worked for or communicated with an intelligence agency "bulls**t."

"That is a flat untruth," she said.

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Blanche stated that the interview files were released "in the interest of transparency."

"Except for the names of victims, every word is included. Nothing removed. Nothing hidden," he remarked.

Markus applauded the DOJ's decision to publish the files. He claimed that Maxwell was "innocent and never should have been tried, much less convicted, in this case."

"She never committed or participated in sexual abuse against minors, or anyone else for that matter. In fact, the government has admitted that it did not even consider her a conspirator during the extensive investigation into Epstein in the Southern District of Florida. The only reason she was ever charged is that she served as a scapegoat after Jeffrey Epstein died in prison," Markus stated.

"We are thankful to the Department of Justice and to Todd Blanche for making these tapes and transcripts public so that people can judge for themselves. We are also grateful to the president for his continued commitment to the truth in this matter and for refusing to cave to the mob," Markus added.

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DOJ Turns Over Epstein Documents To House Oversight

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Clinton appointee blocks DOJ push for Epstein transparency



A federal judge appointed by former President Bill Clinton rejected the Department of Justice's latest push for transparency surrounding the case of Jeffrey Epstein.

U.S. District Judge Richard Berman blocked the DOJ's request to unseal roughly 70 pages of grand jury transcripts and exhibits in Epstein's case, calling the motion a "diversion" tactic.

'The information contained in the Epstein grand jury transcripts pales in comparison.'

"The government is the logical party to make comprehensive disclosure to the public of the Epstein files," Berman wrote in his 14-page opinion.

"By comparison, the instant grand jury motion appears to be a 'diversion' from the breadth and scope of the Epstein files in the government's possession," Berman added. "The grand jury testimony is merely a hearsay snippet of Jeffrey Epstein's alleged conduct."

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"The information contained in the Epstein grand jury transcripts pales in comparison to the Epstein investigation information and materials in the hands of the Department of Justice," Berman wrote.

Berman's decision on Wednesday is the third instance in which a federal judge has denied similar motions made by the DOJ to unseal certain case material that pertains to Epstein. Despite the pushback from federal judges, the DOJ is expected to begin turning over roughly 100,000 pages of Epstein-related records to the House Oversight Committee on Friday.

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Berman also justified his decision to block the release of additional Epstein files in order to protect the privacy and safety of victims.

"Victims did not have sufficient notice before the government filed the instant motions to unseal," Berman wrote. "The government must ensure a proper review and redaction process in coordination with victims' counsel."

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Former AG Bill Barr testifies he found no dirt on Trump during Epstein probe, Comer says



The Epstein saga continues as the House Oversight Committee kicks off its questioning of several high-profile figures. Former U.S. Attorney General William Barr, who investigated the death of Jeffrey Epstein during the first Trump administration, appeared for a hearing Monday morning to give his testimony.

Though the hearing was behind closed doors, members of the committee updated reporters about the progress of the hearing.

'I think it's unfortunate that the Democrats are trying to, seems to me, politicize this.'

"He said that he had never seen anything that would implicate President Trump in any of this and that he believed if there had been anything pertaining to President Trump with respect to the Epstein list, that he felt like the Biden administration would probably have leaked it out," Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) told reporters partway through Barr's testimony.

"I have more questions now than I did before going in," Rep. Suhas Subramanyam (D-Va.) told reporters before Comer's remarks. "Just generally, though, I think the Democratic side is doing most of the heavy lifting. I don't think we're learning much from the questioning from the House Republicans."

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When asked about Subramanyam's comments, Comer reportedly said, "I think it's unfortunate that the Democrats are trying to, seems to me, politicize this."

Barr's hearing is the first in a series of high-profile House Oversight depositions in the coming months. Alberto Gonzales, Jeff Sessions, Robert Mueller, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Merrick Garland, James Comey, Hillary Clinton, and Bill Clinton are set to appear before the Oversight Committee through October.

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