Catholics v. Protestants? Why we need each other now more than ever



I'm as close to a card-carrying evangelical as you can get. I tote my Bible everywhere, I’m married to a Baptist pastor/chaplain, and I hold fast to sola scriptura.

But since I first waded into the culture war more than a decade ago, I’ve experienced a surprising and sweet solidarity ... with Catholics.

Yes, our differences matter. Yes, we should debate them. But we must refuse to destroy one another in the process.

Catholic thinkers first introduced me to natural law, a framework that became the foundation of my nonprofit’s work, Them Before Us. Over the years, I’ve stood shoulder to shoulder with Catholic friends in the trenches of some of our most significant cultural battles: fighting the transgender juggernaut, overturning Roe v. Wade, and defending parental rights against government overreach. None of those victories could have been accomplished had either side fought alone.

And yet, lately, I’ve been watching that solidarity fray. If we don’t recognize what’s happening and why, it will strip us of the ability to wage successful future battles.

Shared battlefields, different churches

Make no mistake: I'm not suggesting that our theological differences don’t matter. They do.

I’ve had Catholic friends tell me, lovingly, that they’re praying that I’ll “come home to the one true Church.” I’ve smiled and told them, just as lovingly, that I don’t believe the veil was torn so I could pray to St. Joseph.

I’m deeply uneasy with the level of attention given to Mary (“It's not worship, it's veneration,” they've explained to me over and over). But I also believe many Protestants undervalue Mary’s radical obedience and submission to God. Fun fact: Years ago, I even named a brief LLC "The Lord’s Handmaid" because I wanted everything in my work to reflect Mary’s posture, “Let it be done to me according to Your word.”

They think I don’t know enough church history. And to be fair ... they’re right. I was shocked when I overheard a Catholic share that her favorite verse was found in the Book of David.

We have significant doctrinal differences, worth discussing, worth debating, even worth worshiping separately over. But the differences have never escalated into open warfare between us. And the peace we’ve worked to keep has yielded real, tangible results — wins we’d never see without cooperation.

Shots across the Tiber

But something’s shifted. In recent months, I’ve seen evangelicals and Catholics turn on each other in ways I haven’t witnessed before.

Maybe it’s because conservatives have regained some level of cultural influence, at least online, and old tensions are resurfacing. Maybe it’s because conflict drives traffic and subscriptions for those who monetize outrage. Whatever the reason, the tone has grown brutal. Personal. Ugly.

Instead of sharpening one another through debate, we’re seeing believers on both sides calling each other stupid. Hypocritical. We're seeing slander, misrepresentation, and clickbait-level caricatures.

Meanwhile, there are wolves at the door — figures like Father James Martin on the Catholic side and Matthew Vines on the Protestant side — actively working to erode the teachings of both traditions. I would, and have, sent my children to learn (about philosophy, relationships, marriage, IVF, transgenderism) under faithful Catholic teachers. I would never do the same with Preston Sprinkle or Jen Hatmaker. I have far more in common with faithful Catholics than with progressive Protestants who have rejected biblical truth.

And yet, if we let these intra-Christian fractures widen, our fragile but powerful unity will crumble. And when it does, so will our ability to face what’s still ahead.

The battle ahead requires us both

My nonprofit, Them Before Us, is spearheading a coalition to challenge gay marriage. It's equal to, or maybe more difficult than, the task of overturning Roe v. Wade. Retaking and restoring the institution of marriage, legally and culturally, will demand a united front.

It can’t be done by Catholics alone. It can’t be done by Protestants alone. And it definitely can’t be done if we waste our strength sniping at each other while the real enemy advances.

Yes, our differences matter. Yes, we should debate them. But we must refuse to destroy one another in the process. The stakes for children, families, and the future are far too high for friendly fire.

Faithful Catholics and Protestants may never worship under the same roof, but we can and must fight under the same banner for the sake of the children whose futures hang in the balance. Let’s debate with respect but lock arms where it counts, so together we can reclaim the one institution that safeguards every child: marriage.

This article was adapted from an essay originally published on Katy Faust's Substack, Them Before Us.

Is the Catholic Church a ‘bastion of unity’?



Just like BlazeTV host Allie Beth Stuckey, founder of Live Action Lila Rose is a fierce pro-life advocate.

However, while they agree on social issues that concern morality, when it comes to their perspectives on faith, they differ slightly.

“Something that I hear a lot," says Stuckey, "is that the church has always been so clear on this ... and Protestantism has given way to division. And the Catholic Church is unified, but Protestantism, the fruit of it is this dissension and all of these denominations.”

“And yet when you look at, statistically, what professing Catholics say they believe and what professing Protestants say they believe, it seems to me, if we are to believe a Pew research or something like that, that Protestants, when it comes to things like abortion, when it comes to things like homosexuality, statistically we’re a lot more united on ‘This is what the Bible says,’” she continues.


Meanwhile, Stuckey says that according to these Pew Research studies, 68% of Catholics “say that they’re pro-choice” and 70% of Catholics believe that “non-Christians can go to heaven.”

“So my question is if the Catholic Church is a bastion of unity, why are professing Catholics so disunified when it comes to these really big moral, theological issues?” she asks Rose.

“These words might mean even different things to people, and might be lending some of the confusion,” Rose responds, noting that the Catholics who view missing weekly mass as a mortal sin will be a different story.

“They’re going to be pretty pro-life and pretty down the line, largely speaking, on sexual ethics,” she says. “There’s still going to be confusion even on contraception and IVF, things of this nature.”

“But I think that cohort, they’re doing the weekly gathering as God has commanded of worship, of the Mass, right? So I think it would depend on the groups we’re comparing, quite frankly, because I do know the idea of ‘I’m a believer, I’m a Christian, or I’m an evangelical’ can be very watered down, here in the United States and globally in terms of what that means with morality,” she adds.

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Restoring Protestant glory: A new generation's mission for Christian revival



If you’ve been online, you’ve seen the memes.

Next to the label “Catholic” is a world-famous tourist attraction, a European cathedral. Next to the label “Orthodox” is another world-famous tourist attraction, a Russian cathedral. Next to the label “Protestant” is a strip mall with a corporate-looking sign that says something like “Living Waters Church.”

If you haven’t been online, this is the perception that Generation Z has of the Christian landscape.

There is a conservative resurgence movement among Gen Z in reaction to the radical leftism and social decay that we grew up with. This flavor of conservatism isn’t simply “Republican” but is uniquely focused on tradition.

It is increasingly common among Gen Z males to support religion, monarchy, social hierarchies, and everything the Enlightenment destroyed. As a result, Christianity that looks or feels “traditional” is seen as attractive, and Christianity that feels “modern” — whether in style or beliefs — is seen as repulsive.

In some sense, this is a positive development because no society or religious identity can survive without rootedness in tradition. But the issue for Protestantism is that most young people see it as “modern” and therefore bad.

This is why, as a recent article from the New York Post observed, young men are leaving Protestantism in droves and converting to Eastern Orthodoxy, which they see as a more traditional alternative.

It is hard to blame them for thinking that.

The current reality is this: Only a small percentage of Protestant churches are holistically traditional.

A growing percentage of “Protestant” churches are actually “nondenominational,” meaning they have no connection to any particular Christian tradition. The overwhelming majority of such churches have very modern architecture and use contemporary worship music. They do not feel like traditional churches because they were specifically designed not to feel that way. Back in the 1990s, when tradition was seen as bad, they advertised themselves as “not your grandmother’s church.”

But now the tide has shifted — and it is coming back to bite them.

To make matters worse, the nondenominational style is making its way into mainstream Protestant churches. The New York Post story included examples of Christians leaving Protestantism because their churches switched from traditional to contemporary worship. They felt like Protestantism is always “changing” and that Orthodoxy “never” changes.

There is, in fact, a large group of Protestant churches that have mostly resisted stylistic changes. These are the mainline Protestant churches, which include the Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, and the Presbyterian Church USA (which I am a member of), among others. Most of these churches still have beautiful stained glass buildings, sing hymns, use choirs and organs, and feel very traditional on the outside.

However, despite not changing their style, these churches have changed their doctrine.

Most, though not all, mainline Protestant churches are very theologically liberal and simply adopt whatever cultural or political views are most common on the left at any given time. Their preachers are notoriously liberal, their sermons are often political rallies, and their churches often display Pride flags.

The current reality is this: Only a small percentage of Protestant churches are holistically traditional.

Most Protestant churches with traditional beliefs have a very modern style, and most Protestant churches with traditional style have very modern beliefs. There are some exceptions. For example, the Lutheran Church – Missouri Synod denomination is mostly traditional in belief and worship style.

There are conservative wings of all the mainline Protestant denominations. While most conservative offshoots from these denominations have a contemporary style, there are some churches that do not. However, these are the exceptions, not the rule.

Therefore, there is only one way for Protestantism to survive and harness this religious awakening among the youth: It’s to make Protestantism Protestant again.

People leave Protestantism because they believe they cannot find tradition, liturgy, beauty, or sacraments in Protestantism. This is not true, but on the surface, it may appear true because so many Protestants have abandoned their own religious heritage. Evangelicals, meanwhile, need to abandon the modern trend of nondenominational Christianity and return to the traditional Protestant institutions. Evangelicals need to abandon the watered-down pop-Christianity of televangelists and celebrity preachers and learn the traditional theology of the Reformation.

All of the Protestant Reformers — whether Martin Luther, John Calvin, Heinrich Bullinger, or Thomas Cranmer — cared deeply about the sacraments (baptism and communion). All of the Protestant Confessions (Westminster, Augsburg, Scots, and Heidelberg) confess the same apostolic faith as the early church as expressed in the Apostles', Nicene, and Athanasian Creeds, and they agree the sacraments are means of salvation under ordinary circumstances.

Protestant churches in America up until around 1960 were all beautiful masterpieces of carved stone and stained glass built by the hands of hardworking American Protestant men. Some of the greatest classical Christian music and hymns were written by Bible-believing Protestants such as Johann Sebastian Bach, George Frideric Handel, and Charles Wesley.

However, most modern Christians, whether Protestant or not, are unaware of this heritage.

Many people who leave “Protestantism” are not actually leaving Protestantism. They are leaving modern evangelicalism, which hardly reflects the beliefs and values of the Reformation. It is more similar to the religion of the Radical Reformation, which the mainstream Reformers like Luther and Calvin actually considered to be worse than Roman Catholicism.

It is good to leave evangelical and nondenominational Christianity, but doing so does not require leaving Protestantism.

In fact, leaving evangelicalism is often necessary for joining authentic Protestantism. The Protestant reformers did not see themselves as leaving Catholicism. They saw themselves as Western Catholics — but reformed by the word of God.

Part of the reason that American Christians abandoned traditional Protestantism is because Americans by nature have a rebellious mindset that demands the next “new” thing. Americans are not satisfied with what is tried, true, and has stood the test of time.

Many young Americans abandon their grandparents’ mainline churches because they’re “old” and “stuffy,” choosing instead to start new churches that are bustling with youthful energy. The consequence, however, is the death of tradition and long-lasting communities.

The previous generation of American Christians abandoned traditional denominations, worship, architecture, and theology, which caused younger generations to forget what traditional Protestantism offers. And now, they're choosing to leave it.

Mainline Protestantism is America’s religion.

Another reason why evangelicals are leaving mainline denominations is because they became liberal. But notice how liberals never leave institutions that are conservative. Leftists and marxists have a hijacking mindset. They are patient and spend years insidiously gaining influence in mainstream institutions for the purpose of taking them over — and they are usually successful.

Conservatives, on the other hand, have a retreatist mindset. They often leave institutions whenever they spot even the slightest hint of liberal drift.

Leftists never build great institutions — Christians do. Leftists just hijack them like a virus and turn them into leftist factories. Christians built Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and the great Protestant denominations. Leftists turned them into petri dishes of their ideology, and they were enabled by conservatives who always run away.

If conservative Christians are to reclaim their heritage, they need to leave their comfort zone and return to the institutions the left hijacked. If the left can hijack churches, Christians can take them back — unless we believe Christians are somehow weaker than the left.

There are many ways to make Protestantism Protestant again.

Replace “praise bands” with choirs. Replace guitars and drums with hymns and organs. Replace Hillsong with Bach. Replace new church plants with old historic mainline churches. Replace blue lights and smoke machines with blue stained glass and tall steeples. Replace nondenominational churches with institutional denominations. Replace “altar call” with the ordinary means of grace (word and sacrament). Replace celebrity pastors with the confessions of faith and catechisms.

Mainline Protestantism is America’s religion. It’s the religion of the majority of U.S. presidents. It’s the religion that inspired the Founding Fathers, and chances are, it’s the religion of many of your ancestors.

Go back to Grandma’s old mainline church. These churches are bleeding members, so it will be easier than ever to revive them.

Luckily there is a small, yet rapidly growing movement of young people aimed at doing this exact thing. It's called Operation Reconquista. It advocates for conservative Christians to return to the mainline Protestant denominations that liberals have hijacked for the purpose of retaking them.

Every offshoot from mainline Protestantism has abandoned tradition. This is the only way to recover traditional Protestantism.

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